Thanks to everyone for being such good sports!

It is good to know that there is still room for good-natured funny in what can be stressful times.

Truth be told, I actually did do some experiments rounding off PDB coordinates to the nearest A.  You can try it with this one-line shell command:

cat refined.pdb |\
awk '! /^ATOM|^HETAT/{print;next}\
  {X=substr($0,31,8);Y=substr($0,39,8);Z=substr($0,47,8);\
   pre=substr($0,1,30);post=substr($0,55)}\
  {X=sprintf("%.0f",X);Y=sprintf("%.0f",Y);Z=sprintf("%.0f",Z)}\
  {printf("%s%8.3f%8.3f%8.3f%s\n",pre,X,Y,Z,post)}' |\
cat > roundoff.pdb

  These rounded-off structures look ... weird. And yes they really do crash validation programs.  Food for thought perhaps on what "resolution", rmsd, and especially GDT_TS really mean?

-James Holton
MAD Scientist


On 4/1/2023 1:28 PM, Sweet, Robert wrote:
Knowing the author as I do, I checked the date and time, and wasn't fooled.

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From: CCP4 bulletin board<CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>  on behalf of Carter, 
Charlie<car...@med.unc.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 4:06 PM
To:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] new PDB file format

I fell for this momentarily, hence compliments to James. I was fooled by the 
absolutely sensible intro.

Charlie

On Apr 1, 2023, at 12:34 AM, James Holton<jmhol...@lbl.gov>  wrote:

Anyone who has ever had to lecture a student for writing their unit cell 
lengths to dozens of decimal places is going to love the new PDB format.  It is 
more compact, more realistic, and less misleading to the poor, downstream 
consumers of structural data.

Only a few structures in the PDB are better than 1.0 A, and none come even 
close to 0.1 A.  Nevertheless, the classic PDB file format always listed atomic 
coordinates to three decimal places!  That's implying a precision of 0.001 A, 
which is not supported by the resolution of the data.  At long last, this 
age-old error is being corrected.  From now on, coordinates will be listed to 
the nearest Angstrom only.

An unexpected consequence of this is that R-free of a typical structure is 
going to rise from the current ~20% to well into the 40%s.  This is, however, 
more consistent with high-impact structures published in big-named journals 
using modern, better data collection methods like XFELs and CryoEM, so we are 
going to call this an improvement.  Besides, R factors are just cosmetic anyway.

Updated molprobity scores are not yet available while the authors fix bugs in 
their programs.  Right now, they return errors with the new, improved 
coordinates, such as:
line 272: 57012 Segmentation fault      (core dumped)

So, just as we all must adapt to Python 3 this new standard I'm sure will earn 
us all the thanks of future generations. They will no doubt be very grateful 
that we took these pains to protect them from the dangers of too many decimal 
places.

-James Holton
MAD Scientist

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