Hi Jessica,  

I am quite sure the protein cannot be fit in this unitcell. I was just
curious why the diffraction has closely spaced spots.  

Thanks 

On 2023-02-04 00:02, Jessica Bruhn wrote:

> Hi Kavya, 
> 
> As others have mentioned, the unit cell is too small to contain your protein. 
> With a volume of ~4820 Ang^3, the unit cell can contain at most ~268 atoms, 
> excluding hydrogens (divide the volume by 18 to get this number). If the 
> symmetry is P3, then the asymmetric unit can only contain ~89 atoms (divide 
> the number of atoms in the unit cell by 3), which is not a lot. It is most 
> likely something organic from your buffers (the ligand, TCEP, protein 
> fragment, other buffer components, etc).  
> 
> Searching the CCDC (https://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/structures/?) or the COD 
> (https://nanocrystallography.org/search.html) databases may be helpful. The 
> CCDC also has a unit cell searcher tool (CellCheckCSD) that you can download 
> and use without a license 
> (https://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/support-and-resources/downloads/).   
> Collecting higher resolution data (<1 Ang) and trying to solve this with 
> SHELXT would likely get to the bottom of things if you really want to know. 
> 
> Best of luck! 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> Jessica
> 
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 7:37 AM Artem Evdokimov <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> With 50 mM Zn++ in solution, whatever it is will probably have a Zn salt in 
> it. So if you wanted to solve it by direct methods or via SAD - that should 
> do well. Sadly (hur hur) it's probably quite small, whatever it is.
> 
> Artem 
> 
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> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 6:20 AM Mark J. van Raaij <mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> 
> wrote: 
> like others mentioned, looks like something in between a salt and a protein, 
> perhaps TCEP, the ligand, a peptide cleaved from your protein by trace 
> protease. 
> If possible, I would move the detector closer, collect an atomic resolution 
> dataset and try to solve the structure by direct methods. You never know, it 
> could be something interesting. 
> 
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas, lab 20B
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. +34 91 585 4616 (internal 432092)
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> https://namedrop.io/markvanraaij 
> 
> On 3 Feb 2023, at 09:22, kavyashreem <kavyashr...@instem.res.in> wrote: 
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> We crystallized a protein (30kDa) + ligand (by cocrystallization), in the 
> condition 10%PEG3350, 50mM Zinc acetate. 
> 
> Protein was in the buffer 20mM HEPES, 150mM NaCl, 1uM ZnCl2, 4mM TCEP, pH 8.  
> 
> Crystal:                             Crystal:                           
> crystal under UV m 
> 
> <b06fc576.png>     <e091c7fd.png>   <8ef9453e.png>
> 
> When we collected the data at an in-house facility, it looked something like 
> this: 
> 
> <b903961d.png> 
> 
> The minimum resolution spot is around 9Ang and maximum ~2.2Ang. 
> 
> I have not come across a protein diffraction like this, nor of a salt. When I 
> ran the gel for the incubated protein (protein+ligand), there was no 
> degradation. 
> 
> Although, I was sure there is some problem with this image I tried 
> processing, which could not be, But indexing showed a unit cell  of 11Ang, 
> 11Ang, 46Ang in P3. which was quite expected for two of the axes but not the 
> third. 
> 
> Can anyone please shed some light on this diffraction image? 
> 
> How can it happen?
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Kavya
> 
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