Hi again Ian,

I will send the files to you in a private e-mail.

Best regards
Kristoffer

From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Ian Tickle 
<ianj...@gmail.com>
Reply to: Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 at 14:06
To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Error while running EDSTATS


Hi Kristoffer

OK I see that the MTZ file you used going into EDSTATS (hkl_ed.mtz) does have 
an FOM column so I'm still puzzled why it didn't work the first time.  Ignoring 
errors is only a good idea if you know what the errors are and are confident 
they're not going to affect the results!  I would need this file to work out 
what exactly happened.

Cheers

-- Ian


On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 at 12:03, Kristoffer Lundgren 
<kristoffer.lundg...@teokem.lu.se<mailto:kristoffer.lundg...@teokem.lu.se>> 
wrote:
Hi Ian,

Thanks for looking into this!

The -noerror flag seems to allow edstats.pl<http://edstats.pl> to run to 
completion for me as well.

The maps for edstats.pl<http://edstats.pl> are generated by using phenix.maps 
(version 1.20.1-4487) with the attached maps.params file (maybe this file is 
configured wrong?). Before this step I have run a quantum refinement of the 
model as outlined in 
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/iucr/doi/10.1107/S205979831900175X which is the 
reason for the slightly changed file names.

EDSTATS is then executed through a small script:

cad hklin1 bindividual1_fixed_refine_001_fmodel.mtz hklin2 
bindividual1_fixed_refine_001_map_coeffs.mtz hklout hkl_ed.mtz<<EOF
LABIN FILE 1 E1=FOBS E2=SIGFOBS E3=FCALC E4=PHIFCALC E5=FOM E6=R_FREE_FLAGS
LABOUT FILE 1 E1=FOBS E2=SIGFOBS E3=FC E4=PHIC E5=FOM E6=FREE
LABIN FILE 2 ALL
EOF
edstats.pl<http://edstats.pl> -xyzin bindividual1_fixed_refine_001.pdb -hklin 
hkl_ed.mtz -flabel FOBS -atomsf atomsf_neutron

Best regards
Kristoffer


From: Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com<mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 at 19:33
To: Kristoffer Lundgren 
<kristoffer.lundg...@teokem.lu.se<mailto:kristoffer.lundg...@teokem.lu.se>>
Cc: "CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk>" 
<CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Error while running EDSTATS


Hi Kristoffer

The deposited structure factor file is missing an FOM column which is needed 
for MTZFIX to do its job of checking the veracity of the FWT and DELFWT 
columns.  The message I get with CCP4 7.1 is different, in fact it's exactly 
what I expect:

 mtzfix:  ERROR: Labels not found - maybe non-standard labels used?

i.e. telling you that it's missing required column(s), not the "corrupt output 
file" message which suggests something got mangled.

Can you tell me _exactly_ what you typed on the command line from the point 
after you downloaded and unzipped the data files?

What happens if you skip the MTZFIX step by adding the '-noerror' flag to the 
command line?  This ran to completion for me, though I haven't checked the 
results to see if they make sense.

If that doesn't help you will have to recompute the structure factors from the 
model using 'NCYC 0' in Refmac.  That will output all the required columns so 
you should be able to proceed normally.

The error message "ERROR in radius calculation: max iterations" indicates a 
more serious problem, such as an inability to handle the density profile for 
Mn.  I'm puzzled how it got that far since the MTZFIX failure should have 
terminated the run before it got to that point.

See if any of that helps.

Cheers

-- Ian


On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 17:09, Kristoffer Lundgren 
<00008a31f470d88b-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:00008a31f470d88b-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:
Dear all,

I am trying to run EDSTATS on a neutron structure containing a manganese ion 
(https://www.rcsb.org/structure/7KKW), but either I am doing something wrong or 
something is broken. When using EDSTATS supplied with CCP4 8.0 I end up with 
the error message:

mtzfix:  WARNING: Output file is corrupt so deleted.

ERROR in mtzfix: stopping.


Using EDSTATS supplied with CCP4 7.0, the error message instead becomes:

ERROR in radius calculation: max iterations.

ERROR in RADINT:   2


Oddly enough, when changing MN to FE in the model, EDSTATS in CCP4 7.0 works 
fine. EDSTATS in CCP4 8.0 with FE however again gives me the error message:

mtzfix:  WARNING: Output file is corrupt so deleted.

ERROR in mtzfix: stopping.


Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Kind regards
Kristoffer Lundgren

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