If there isn’t already a suitable model, this looks like a good opportunity to 
try out the powerful new RoseTTAFold deep learning algorithm by Minkyung Baek 
in David Baker’s lab.  It can be used through the Robetta server 
(http://robetta.bakerlab.org, choose Structure Prediction->Submit and then 
choose the RoseTTAFold option).  It’s already been used to solve a number of 
unsolved structures, including the ones discussed in a paper on the algorithm 
(https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.14.448402v1) and others I’ve 
heard of through the grapevine.

Best wishes,

Randy

> On 2 Jul 2021, at 12:52, Eleanor Dodson 
> <0000176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Yes - nothing very significant in the self rotation list of peaks..
> Is the resolution really 2.6A though - if so it will be very difficult to 
> find a single helix which would be quite a small fraction of 70x2 residues 
> Iwould think..
> Is there no suitable model?
> Eleabor
> 
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 12:45, leo john <ljohn16012...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you all.
> 
> I have tried both space groups. I am attaching the required file. 
> 
> Cheers
> John
> 
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 12:40 PM Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
> I presume you have tested both P41 and P43 space groups?
> It is a bit hard to check peak heights in the self rotation. Could you attach 
> the molrep output - I think it is called xxxmolrep.doc.txt in the 
> job directory..
> Eleanor
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 12:33, leo john <ljohn16012...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Group;
> 
> I have collected data at approximately 2 Ang and automated softwares at 
> Diamond have processed it in spacegroup P41.
> My peptide is 70 residues long with 3 helices of minimum 17 residues in it. 
> According to Mat. Coeff. there are 2 molecules. I am also attaching the 
> self-rotation function output map (please give some opinion on it also i.e 
> number of molecules, symmetry).
> 
> Since the molecule has mainly alpha-helices, I am trying to use  Arcimboldo 
> but with no luck. 
> I have used both the coiled-coil mode and normal mode for it and maximum 
> value of CC after 5 cycles I get is closed to 20 that is not great for a 
> solution. Even upon looking the structure solution by Arcimboldo, I found a 
> lot of loops and I do not get any density for sidechains. A few of the parts 
> of the helices and loops are overlapping. 
> 
> I have used CCPi2 with the following options:
> The assymmetric unit contains 1 molecule of mol wt 7300
> search for 3 helices of length 14 residues
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> <image.png>
> 
> Thank you
> John
> 
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