Hi Raphael

I can second Tom and Matthews comments. We got crystals only after including an 
ion exchange column (even though we work with a GST construct cleaved off with 
thrombin). Well diffracting crystals then only grow by seeding in reduced 
precipitant concentration. Additionally, the seeds allow us to test for 
additive salts in which initial crystals did not pop up. I often use a whole 
set of fine screens with different salts in which I am seeding in the protein. 
And in almost all cases, the seeding yields in good crystals only after also 
changing the protein concentration (say, from initially 12mg/ml to 8-30mg/ml 
with reduced precipitant concentration). You did not mention what you changed 
in your seeding experiment, but try a bunch of different conditions, 
concentrations (and temperature) with the seeds.

Matthias


Dr. Matthias Barone

AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design

Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP)
Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10
13125 Berlin

Germany
Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284

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Hi Raphael

Think about simple refinement,
differents kits are available

additifs kits:
      - additif, Gras and Silver bullet : from Hampton research
      - Angstrom and Morpheus from MDL
      - JBScreen Plus from Jena bioscience

detergent kits:
      - from Hampton resaerch
      - from Jena bioscience

FH


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