Hi Raphael I can second Tom and Matthews comments. We got crystals only after including an ion exchange column (even though we work with a GST construct cleaved off with thrombin). Well diffracting crystals then only grow by seeding in reduced precipitant concentration. Additionally, the seeds allow us to test for additive salts in which initial crystals did not pop up. I often use a whole set of fine screens with different salts in which I am seeding in the protein. And in almost all cases, the seeding yields in good crystals only after also changing the protein concentration (say, from initially 12mg/ml to 8-30mg/ml with reduced precipitant concentration). You did not mention what you changed in your seeding experiment, but try a bunch of different conditions, concentrations (and temperature) with the seeds.
Matthias Dr. Matthias Barone AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP) Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10 13125 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 ________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of hoh <h...@cbs.cnrs.fr> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 9:46:58 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Micro/Macro crystal seeding experience Hi Raphael Think about simple refinement, differents kits are available additifs kits: - additif, Gras and Silver bullet : from Hampton research - Angstrom and Morpheus from MDL - JBScreen Plus from Jena bioscience detergent kits: - from Hampton resaerch - from Jena bioscience FH ________________________________________ François Hoh Centre de Biochimie Structurale, UMR 5048 CNRS, UMR 1054 INSERM 29, rue de navacelles 34090 Montpellier Cedex, France. Phone: +33 467 417 706 Fax: +33 467 417 913 ________________________________________ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB<http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk<http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk>, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/