Hello, it would be helpful to see screenshots of a couple of diffraction images 
from each crystal. The refinement, etc, in mosflm et al can be thrown off a 
bit, I think, if you are too optimistic about the outer resolution limit. Do 
the spots look split and are you confident about the beam centre? If you are 
only predicting 25% of the spots it sounds, as you implied, like a cell and 
symmetry problem.

Best wishes, Jon Cooper. jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com

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On 2 Oct 2020, 16:04, Xu, Shenyuan wrote:

> Dear CCP4 community,
>
> I have two challenging datasets for indexing, one has very strong 
> diffraction, the other one has very weak spots. I know both crystals are not 
> very good, knocked down from a big chunk of crystal.
>
> For the dataset 1, first I use iMosflm to index it, but it can not refine it 
> as "Detector tilt and twist parameters vary substantially". Based on the 
> penalty value and RMSD, the index solution is not satisfactory. Then I moved 
> to Xia2 from CCP4i, no index solution was found. Then I use Dials, it can 
> successfully index the data, but only about 25% spots have been indexed, and 
> the rmsd is not very good. I forced it to proceed, and after integration, the 
> statistics seem to be good, but I can not use MR to solve the structure (If 
> the index is good, I think MR can solve it as I did it before). I have gone 
> through all the troubleshooting suggestions that are available online for 
> iMosflm and Dials, but no improvement.
>
> For the dataset 2, I think the main reason is because of the weak 
> diffraction. Both iMosflm and Dials can not give good results.
>
> The best way may be to optimize the crystal. But I feel like there may be a 
> better way to optimize the parameters to index it. The datasets are large, I 
> can send you privately by email if you are interested to take a look.
>
> I really appreciate your suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Shen
>
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