Hi Clemens, Thanks for pointing out the table in the PDBpeep log file. It has the data I need and since the issue only applies to deposited PDB entries it does the trick quite nicely.
Cheers, Robbie > -----Original Message----- > From: Clemens Vonrhein <vonrh...@globalphasing.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 14:18 > To: Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> > Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question > > Dear Robbie, > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 08:36:06AM +0000, Robbie Joosten wrote: > > I've been looking at some recent PDB entries that have much lower > > spherical) completeness than reported in the coordinate file. One > > reason for this is that the data were anisotropicly truncated, another > > reason is some mess-up with the deposition of the reflection data. > > There is a lot of discussion about the former practice and I don't > > want to go in to that, but the second one is obviously an error. Now > > how do I distinguish these cases? > > > > Sometimes, you can look at the reported number of reflections and > > compare that to the deposited reflection file and you will find that > > something has clearly gone wrong. However, the reported number of > > reflections is not entirely reliable because of other issues so I'd > > rather not use it. If you use PDBpeep (e.g. for 6rjy) you can see > > something is wrong, but that is completely visual. Is there a tool in > > CCP4 that reports both spherical and ellipsoidal completeness (on > > merged reflection data)? That would make it easy to distinguish such > > cases. > > One needs a description of the anisotropy in a form that allows for a simple > computation ("Is a reflection above a significance limit or > not?") to relate this to the completeness of reflections above such a > significance level. That model could e.g. be the ellipsoid fitted to the > significance (local <I/sigI>) cutoff surface as done by STARANISO [1]. You can > see that information e.g. at the PDBpeep server [2]: > > http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/cgi-bin/PDBpeep.cgi?ID=6rjy > > as > > Diffraction limits & principal axes of ellipsoid fitted to diffraction > cut-off > surface: > > 1.747 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 a* > 1.777 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 b* > 1.465 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 c* > > Of course, if this information is already present in deposited PDB entries of > interest, no additional computation is required. We are currently working > with our colleagues from the PDBx/mmCIF working group on definitions and > items that would extend the current PDBx/mmCIF dictionary so that the > above information could be deposited to and retrieved from the PDB > database. > > In any case, this information is then used for computation of the spherical > and ellipsoidal completness e.g. within STARANISO - see link to the > "complete log file" at the bottom of the page: > http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/PDB/6rjy.log. It contains a table > ("Statistics for isotropic, anisotropic & ellipsoidal diffraction > cut-offs") where Cmeas_sph and Cmeas_ell should give the above > information (showing clearly that for 6rjy something else went wrong during > deposition). > > If there is unmerged data deposited, one could give that ellipsoid description > e.g. to MRFANA [3] via > > mrfana -ell 1.747 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.777 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.465 0.0 0.0 1.0 > unmerged.mtz > > to get the same information (but maybe use different binning, limit > resolution ranges etc). > > Cheers > > Clemens, Claus, Ian & Gerard > > [1] http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/ > [2] http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/cgi-bin/PDBpeep.cgi > [3] https://github.com/githubgphl/MRFANA, a result of the Data Quality > Metrics Workshop organised by Global Phasing at the ESRF in April > 2019 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/