> but as you read the paper you realize that the authors managed to find a 
> journal that allowed them to publish their work without disclosing neither 
> the coordinates of the model,

Why and how such referees and editors reach such levels in academia?


On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 17:18, Frank von Delft
<frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Write to the editor - that's their job.
>
> Though they may also see it as their job to ignore emails like yours because 
> that's far easier than dealing with them.
>
> Alternatively, go the Rupp Route:  Name and Shame! ;)
>
>
> On 07/04/2020 16:08, Artem Evdokimov wrote:
>
> Dear CCP4ers,
>
> I would like to solicit your thoughts on the following (this is a real 
> situation, but salient details are changed):
>
> Imagine that you're an industrial scientist in a small company, working on 
> the Bavarian Sausage (Weisswurst) Esterase project. The overall structure is 
> previously unknown, with no good homologs in the PDB, trying to model is "OK 
> not great" so the structure is really needed...
>
> Then, you find an article from a large commercial competitor, that somehow 
> managed to solve the Stadtwurst (Saxony Sausage) Esterase structure (which is 
> a very close homolog to the one you need!).
>
> Sounds good - but as you read the paper you realize that the authors managed 
> to find a journal that allowed them to publish their work without disclosing 
> neither the coordinates of the model, nor even the crystallization conditions 
> of the protein - all that's available is a tantalizing still picture of the 
> active site in surface mode, with a ball-and-stick ligand positioned such 
> that it is impossible to say what it interacts with.
>
> So you sit and ponder - whether to write to the Editor, or maybe to contact 
> the authors directly (but then they would know that you're working on this, 
> which is not necessarily great since you're competing), or to just buck up 
> and do the structure on your own (which feels a bit wasteful). Then, you 
> realize that your friends at CCP4 have a lot of wisdom to offer, so you sit 
> down and pen an email...
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Artem
>
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