Hello Jessica,

options to test (in order to judge what is going on in the active site):

1) Take all the water/ion molecules out of the pocket and refine the rest of the structure as good as you can (without overfitting everything) and calculate a sigma A-weighed *3Fo-2Fc* map. Since you already refined the atoms, there may be some memory effect (if you do not use the correct/older mtz file), so shake all coordinates/B-factors a bit before starting the refinement (reset B-factors to 30 and/or slightly shift the atom coordinates randomly).
2) Consider to use an alternative refinement program (may save the day).
3) Since you have built a model, you can calculate maps on an absolute scale (i.e. electrons/Å3) - the absence of an atom should result in a peak of a particular height, but will not be consistent when viewed in sigma’s. 4) Calculate a "polder" map and/or AK (averaged kicked) map instead of the classical maps that have there shortcomings. 5) Finally, could be you are facing a partial occupation or alternative position of a water molecule that will never materialize... You could spend weeks for little to no progress. In this case, it is better to not refine anything in that position and write down all your efforts in the manuscript…..

Cheers,
Jeroen


Am 04.03.20 um 19:04 schrieb Jessica Besaw:

Hey Roger,

I believe the Chloride spot is a negatively changed anion because it has more density that water and it is close to an arginine. Does this chloride binding coordination look reasonable?

All of the other water are coordinated to two other side-chains, and do not depend on the partially occupied water

Cheers!

Jessica



On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 12:27, Roger Rowlett <rrowl...@colgate.edu <mailto:rrowl...@colgate.edu>> wrote:

    In addition, one should carefully consider the chemistry and
    coordination geometry around the putative chloride ion. Not only
    do candidates have to be consistent with the observed omit
    density, but they must also make chemical interaction and geometry
    sense. I suspect a partial occupancy water may make the most sense
    from the limited data provided, but only if all the other placed
    solvent molecules have clearly defined interactions that do not
    depend solely on the partially occupied water. What does the
    chloride coordination geometry look like? Is it clearly a chloride
    ion and not a cation?

    Roger Rowlett
    Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor, Emeritus
    Colgate University

    On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 12:20 PM Nukri Sanishvili <sannu...@gmail.com
    <mailto:sannu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi Jessica,
        You do not say how well is the rest of the structure refined.
        First, you should refine the structure best you can, without
        placing anything in the unclear blob of your interest so to
        obtain the best possible phases and hopefully improve the blob
        density as well.
        Then you should let the BB see what that density looks like.
        Looking at only the list of possibilities has very little
        value without seeing the density itself.
        Best wishes,
        Nukri

        On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 11:10 AM Jessica Besaw
        <jbesaw1...@gmail.com <mailto:jbesaw1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Hello friends,

            I have a "blob" of density in an active site of my protein.

            I am struggling to determine if I should place a water in
            this spot, if I should model it as a disordered water, if
            the density may be a ligand that I have not considered, or
            if it should be left as unaccounted for density. I would
            like to publish this structure without compromising the
            science.

            I have attached several possibilities that I have
            considered below.

            Any suggestions would be appreciated.

            Cheers!

            Jessica Besaw



            
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