Many thanks for all of the suggestions. Ni2+ or Zn2+ seem to be the most
likely culprits, but I plan to carry out a fluorescence scan at my next
beam session.

While it’s interesting that others have observed crystallization-driven
formation of disulfides, the binding of a metal ion at the given position
looks much more probable.

Best wishes,
Chris


On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 17:56 Sarah Bowman <sbow...@hwi.buffalo.edu> wrote:

> This conversation brings up the question of whether it would be good
> practice to always do a fluorescence scan of a crystal sample, whether it
> is known to be a metalloprotein or not...
>
>
>
> Energy dispersive X-ray fluorescence spectra (accessible at most
> synchrotron sources at this point) can often tell you whether there is
> metal in your sample and, because the transitions are element specific,
> what the metal identity is (although it can't place the metal - you need
> the anomalous difference for that).
>
>
>
> Note also there is a recent paper out in JACS using PIXE to investigate
> metalloproteins in the PDB which resolved a number of misidentified or
> missing metal atoms in the structures: High-Throughput PIXE as an Essential
> Quantitative Assay for Accurate Metalloprotein Structural Analysis:
> Development and Application J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2020, 142, 1, 185-197
> https://doi.org/10.1021/jacs.9b09186
>
>
>
> Metals are everywhere!!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> *Sarah EJ Bowman, PhD*
>
>
>
> Associate Research Scientist, Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
>
> Director, High-Throughput Crystallization Screening Center
>
> Research Associate Professor, Department of Biochemistry, University at
> Buffalo
>
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>
> *From: *CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of
> Christian Roth <christianroth...@gmail.com>
>
>
> *Reply-To: *Christian Roth <christianroth...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:17 PM
> *To: *"CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> *Subject: *Re: Unusual monomer-monomer interface in crystal
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> it could be all Ni besides Zn. I've seen Ni carried over from the initial
> metal affinity chromatography I presume.
>
>
>
> Cheers Christian
>
>
>
> Chris Fage <fage...@gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 21. Jan. 2020, 21:23:
>
> Thanks to Guenter and Eleanor for their replies. I mentioned that there is
> not adequate space for a metal ion at the described interfaces.
> Nevertheless, placement of a metal ion, followed by refinement in Phenix,
> repositions the side chains significantly so as to make room for the ion
> without distorting geometry. There is also a very strong difference signal
> centered between the four side chains. This agrees with the MS data, which
> indicate a monomeric state without a disulfide linkage. Now, I just need to
> identify the metal. A Zn2+ seems to fit well based on coordination number
> and interatomic distances, as Guenter exemplified.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 6:33 PM Eleanor Dodson <
> 0000176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Easy to check whether it is a metal by looking at an anomalous difference
> map..
>
> But there are examples of di-sulphides formed between symmetry related
> molecules..
>
> Query the wwwpdb -
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 18:06, Guenter Fritz <
> guenter.fritz.phenix.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Chris, are there any metal ions in your buffer or in your protein. We
> had a similar looking case. A Zn2+ ion bridged two monomers. Our protein is
> a Zn2+ binding protein. The Zn2+ originated from some denatured protein in
> the drop. No extra Zn2+ was in the crystallization buffer.
>
>
>
> http://www.rcsb.org/structure/5CHT
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/nsmb.3371
>
> HTH
>
> Guenter
>
> Dear CCP4BB Users,
>
>
>
> I've recently solved the ~2.2 angstrom structure of a protein. In my
> electron density there are unusual monomer-monomer interfaces involving
> pairs of His and Cys residues (see https://ibb.co/wdWBcdk). Note the
> positive Fo-Fc density between the four side chains. As there is not
> adequate space for a water molecule or metal ion, perhaps the Cys residues
> are partially tied up disulfide bonds? However, the protein looks to be
> fully monomeric based on LC-MS measurements. Has anyone else observed
> crystal-driven formation of disulfide bridges?
>
>
>
> Aside from this region, there is no extensive interface between momoners,
> and PDBePISA suggests a monomeric state.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice!
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris
>
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