Hi Katherine

I'm regularly struggling with inhibitors that bound at non-canonical sites and 
bind there with different conformations. So the situation in these 
complex-structures could be a bit similar to your situation. In our case, the 
inhibitors bind on the non-canonical site with roughly Kd 5-20mM, causing their 
density to really wash out to an amount that parts of the molecule are no 
longer resolved due to the absence of deep binding pockets. I know the behavior 
you describe, namely that the molecule drifts over the epitope without creating 
difference density at the new position.
Sadly, I don't have a solution that would help you out for sure, but here are 
three tips:
- looking at the DS, I would assume that you have significant information 
beyond 1.9A (completeness is still 94% and CC1/2 way over 60%. How much more 
information can you bring into refinement? It took me a 1.1A DS to finally 
resolve the proper orientation of a weakly, non-canonically bound inhibitor, so 
it might be a good idea to extend the DS?
- try fem maps, might well be that they bring up important details to place the 
molecule (however, in refinement, the ligand will drift off again...)
- Use an alternate method to track down weak interactions. If I cannot resolve 
a complex satisfactorily, I switch to HSQC, which is much more sensible for Kds 
in the mM range. Just use it to confirm that the ligand is actually binding 
where you see the density (you can determine even Kds with that method)


Best,

Matthias


Dr. Matthias Barone

AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design

Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP)
Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10
13125 Berlin

Germany
Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Potential weak binding ligand in the active site

Hi all,

I apologise in advance for the long post. I am working on solving a structure 
that looks like it could have a ligand bound in the active site. My data was 
obtained from a crystal of just the soluble domain of my protein that had been 
soaked overnight in the ligand solution. The apo crystal structure is already 
known and so I have solved my structure using phaser MR. I have attached the 
Aimless report output of my structure at the end of this email. The current R 
values I have after refinement and adding in all the waters are Rfree: 0.2413 
and Rwork: 0.1897. I can clearly see green density that is much larger (only 
disappears when I contour the Fo-Fc map to about 6 A) than in my control 
crystal that had been soaked in the same concentration of just solvent (I had 
used DMF).

I am struggling to add in my ligand as it doesn't seem like the entire ligand 
can fit in the green density. We think it may be because we have only used the 
soluble domain and so the ligand isn't held very securely since the 
transmembrane domain is missing. I have been trying to fit in smaller sections 
of it and doing an occupancy refinement. So far I have been able to get part of 
the ligand in with an occupancy of about 0.6 but after the refinement run, 
phenix.refine seems to move this part of the ligand slightly out of the area 
where I had tried to fit it into the green density. Interestingly, there isn't 
a big red density in the area that this ligand section has moved to. I would 
appreciate any advice on how I should proceed with trying to figure out if I 
have tried the correct section of the ligand and the kind of refinement 
settings to use with a weak binder.

Space Group     P212121
Unit cell abc   84.76, 89.84, 91.55
unit cell alpha beta gamma      90, 90, 90

        OVERALL LOW RES HIGH RES
Low res limit   45.78   45.78   1.94
High res limit  1.9     9.11    1.9
Rmerge  0.234   0.052   1.684
Rmeas   0.244   0.054   1.768
Rpim    0.069   0.016   0.527
Total # observations    663073  6282    36851
Total # unique  55174   579     3359
I/sigma 7.5     27.9    1.4
CC ½    0.997   0.999   0.747
Completeness %
        99      98.7    94.7
Multiplicity    12      10.8    11

Katherine Lim

PhD Candidate

School of Biomedical Sciences; School of Molecular Sciences

Marshall Centre for Infectious Disease Research and Training

The University of Western Australia

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