Hi Katherine I'm regularly struggling with inhibitors that bound at non-canonical sites and bind there with different conformations. So the situation in these complex-structures could be a bit similar to your situation. In our case, the inhibitors bind on the non-canonical site with roughly Kd 5-20mM, causing their density to really wash out to an amount that parts of the molecule are no longer resolved due to the absence of deep binding pockets. I know the behavior you describe, namely that the molecule drifts over the epitope without creating difference density at the new position. Sadly, I don't have a solution that would help you out for sure, but here are three tips: - looking at the DS, I would assume that you have significant information beyond 1.9A (completeness is still 94% and CC1/2 way over 60%. How much more information can you bring into refinement? It took me a 1.1A DS to finally resolve the proper orientation of a weakly, non-canonically bound inhibitor, so it might be a good idea to extend the DS? - try fem maps, might well be that they bring up important details to place the molecule (however, in refinement, the ligand will drift off again...) - Use an alternate method to track down weak interactions. If I cannot resolve a complex satisfactorily, I switch to HSQC, which is much more sensible for Kds in the mM range. Just use it to confirm that the ligand is actually binding where you see the density (you can determine even Kds with that method)
Best, Matthias Dr. Matthias Barone AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP) Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10 13125 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 ________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Katherine Lim <katherine....@research.uwa.edu.au> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:57:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Potential weak binding ligand in the active site Hi all, I apologise in advance for the long post. I am working on solving a structure that looks like it could have a ligand bound in the active site. My data was obtained from a crystal of just the soluble domain of my protein that had been soaked overnight in the ligand solution. The apo crystal structure is already known and so I have solved my structure using phaser MR. I have attached the Aimless report output of my structure at the end of this email. The current R values I have after refinement and adding in all the waters are Rfree: 0.2413 and Rwork: 0.1897. I can clearly see green density that is much larger (only disappears when I contour the Fo-Fc map to about 6 A) than in my control crystal that had been soaked in the same concentration of just solvent (I had used DMF). I am struggling to add in my ligand as it doesn't seem like the entire ligand can fit in the green density. We think it may be because we have only used the soluble domain and so the ligand isn't held very securely since the transmembrane domain is missing. I have been trying to fit in smaller sections of it and doing an occupancy refinement. So far I have been able to get part of the ligand in with an occupancy of about 0.6 but after the refinement run, phenix.refine seems to move this part of the ligand slightly out of the area where I had tried to fit it into the green density. Interestingly, there isn't a big red density in the area that this ligand section has moved to. I would appreciate any advice on how I should proceed with trying to figure out if I have tried the correct section of the ligand and the kind of refinement settings to use with a weak binder. Space Group P212121 Unit cell abc 84.76, 89.84, 91.55 unit cell alpha beta gamma 90, 90, 90 OVERALL LOW RES HIGH RES Low res limit 45.78 45.78 1.94 High res limit 1.9 9.11 1.9 Rmerge 0.234 0.052 1.684 Rmeas 0.244 0.054 1.768 Rpim 0.069 0.016 0.527 Total # observations 663073 6282 36851 Total # unique 55174 579 3359 I/sigma 7.5 27.9 1.4 CC ½ 0.997 0.999 0.747 Completeness % 99 98.7 94.7 Multiplicity 12 10.8 11 Katherine Lim PhD Candidate School of Biomedical Sciences; School of Molecular Sciences Marshall Centre for Infectious Disease Research and Training The University of Western Australia ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1