Hi Artem,

you are certainly correct in that James' points 2-9 would be moot if his point 
1 were solved. But as long as this is not the case, we resort to work with few 
and/or small and/or badly diffracting and/or non-isomorphous crystals, which 
makes points 2-9 very relevant. 

Maybe the reason why crystallization research is not well funded is that it is 
not expected to yield significant improvements. Personally, I think that even 
huge funding would not result in methods that succeed in crystallizing all 
molecules.

best,
Kay

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:28:14 -0400, Artem Evdokimov <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

>Excellent question :)
>
>First of all, thank you for putting this out to the community!
>
>Secondly, I agree with several of us who've written that a single
>conference is not enough to discuss all the possible topics.
>
>Thirdly, in my opinion all the other problems are secondary to the main
>(and only remaining!) problem in crystallography: getting
>diffraction-quality protein crystals reproducibly and quickly
>
>The amount of funding for serious crystallization research seems to be
>close to non-existent. In general methodology funding is hard to get, but
>crystallization seems to me like the absolute underdog of the method pool -
>the true 'red headed stepchild' of the methods development funders.
>
>At risk of repeating myself - the other problems (worthy, significant, and
>urgent as they are!) are subservient to the main issue at hand - namely
>that crystallization remains an unpredictable and artful phenomenon while
>literally all other aspects of structure determination process (the gene to
>structure pipeline, whatever you might call it)have made astronomic leaps
>forward.
>
>Artem
>- Cosmic Cats approve of this message
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:44 PM Holton, James M <
>0000270165b9f4cf-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have the distinct honor of chairing the next Gordon Research
>> Conference on Diffraction Methods in Structural Biology (July 26-31
>> 2020).  This meeting will focus on the biggest challenges currently
>> faced by structural biologists, and I mean actual real-world
>> challenges.  As much as possible, these challenges will take the form of
>> friendly competitions with defined parameters, data, a scoring system,
>> and "winners", to be established along with other unpublished results
>> only at the meeting, as is tradition at GRCs.
>>
>> But what are the principle challenges in biological structure
>> determination today?  I of course have my own ideas, but I feel like I'm
>> forgetting something.  Obvious choices are:
>> 1) getting crystals to diffract better
>> 2) building models into low-resolution maps (after failing at #1)
>> 3) telling if a ligand is really there or not
>> 4) the phase problem (dealing with weak signal, twinning and
>> pseudotranslation)
>> 5) what does "resolution" really mean?
>> 6) why are macromolecular R factors so much higher than small-molecule
>> ones?
>> 7) what is the best way to process serial crystallography data?
>> 8) how should one deal with non-isomorphism in multi-crystal methods?
>> 9) what is the "structure" of something that won't sit still?
>>
>> What am I missing?  Is industry facing different problems than
>> academics?  Are there specific challenges facing electron-based
>> techniques?  If so, could the combined strength of all the world's
>> methods developers solve them?  I'm interested in hearing the voice of
>> this community.  On or off-list is fine.
>>
>> -James Holton
>> MAD Scientist
>>
>>
>> ########################################################################
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
>>
>
>########################################################################
>
>To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
>https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
>

########################################################################

To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1

Reply via email to