Dear Kay and colleagues, It is possible to extend the inspection of data associated to a PDB entry beyond Table 1 by means of the PDBpeep server available at
http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/cgi-bin/PDBpeep.cgi Doing so for these three entries shows that while 6MO2 has a rather normal 3D distribution of <I/sd(I>) and <CC1/2>, both 6MO0 and 6MO1 show a strange pattern for these two quantities, where the iso-surfaces are pinched towards the origin along the c* axis - perhaps, indeed, an indication that the space group is wrong and that the point group is 3 rather than 32 (?). It might be something else, but there is a definite anomaly in the 3D distributions of these two statistics. With best wishes, Gerard. -- On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 06:07:33PM +0100, Kay Diederichs wrote: > Hi Tristan et al, > > before people invest their time into re-refining a model against the > deposited data, I'd suggest that these data are dubious - see table S3 in > https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/jacs.9b02505/suppl_file/ja9b02505_si_001.pdf > ! The data processing statistics look "surprising" to me: "Rsym or Rmerge" > values are unexpectedly high, and the high-resolution cutoffs for 2 of the 3 > structures are too low. Maybe the space group is wrong? With such data, > ligand density cannot expected to be meaningful, I'd say. > In my eyes, the authors should be asked for the raw data images, and these > should be reprocessed before re-refinement. > > best, > Kay > > On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:05:21 +0100, Tristan Croll <ti...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > >I couldn't resist doing a little playing with 6mo0 in ISOLDE. The > >sequence past Gly1151 is wrong - after jumping a small gap (density > >clearly indicates a single missing residue here), it continues on from > >1165. Corrected the following sequence to GVVTRS, deleted the ligands, > >did some basic energy minimisation and cleaning up of obvious local > >problems, reset the B-factors and refined in Phenix.refine. Rwork/Rfree > >28/32, MolProbity score 2.14 (vs. 3.6 originally). No sign of anything > >like the ligand in the difference density (just a small blob in the > >active site). Some other oddities make me suspect a number of point > >mutations from the assigned sequence (not register errors - the > >surrounds are quite clear). I'm particularly intrigued by residues 48-71 > >- this stretch appears to link seamlessly head-to-tail with its own > >symmetry copy, forming a seemingly-continuous chain snaking through the > >crystal. Can't make head nor tail of that. A decidedly odd structure... > >but I agree with you that the ligand doesn't seem supported by the > >density. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Tristan > > > >On 2019-07-19 14:46, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: > >> Hi Rhys, > >> > >> There is definitively some density present for a ligand, but the > >> active site region looks completely misfitted, and the ligand density > >> may also belong to unfitted protein residues. One first needs to get > >> the protein chain right, and should then look if there would still be > >> density available to fit the ligand. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Herman > >> > >> VON: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] IM AUFTRAG VON > >> Rhys Grinter > >> GESENDET: Freitag, 19. Juli 2019 15:22 > >> AN: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >> BETREFF: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Questionable Ligand Density: 6MO0, 6MO1, > >> 6MO2 > >> > >> EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I was chatting with a colleague during a recent synchrotron visit and > >> they'd recently come across some ligand/drug bound structures > >> associated with a paper recently published in a high impact factor > >> journal. > >> > >> They had pulled the associated SFs from the PDB and found that the > >> electron density associated with these ligands didn't match that > >> reported in the paper and certainly wasn't sufficient to model the > >> alleged ligand. > >> > >> I also pulled the structure factors and after refinement in the > >> presence/absence of the alleged ligand I also feel that the density > >> present does not warrant modelling of the ligand. > >> > >> I was hoping that the community might be able to give me an outside > >> opinion on these datasets (PDB IDs: 6MO0, 6MO1, 6MO2) and if the > >> problem associated with the data is verified, provide some advice on > >> how to proceed. > >> > >> This isn't the first occasion I've seen ligand bound structures with > >> questionable density deposited in association with papers in well > >> respected journals. 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