Indeed java in the browser was killed a long time ago.

But the good news is that plenty of alternatives exist, written in native
(to the browser) javascript. Wikipedia has a nice compilation of the
different viewers, under the "Web-based systems" section:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_molecular_graphics_systems

I would particularly recommend the Mol* project:

https://molstar.org/

Jose


On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 10:37, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> A bit of a hack I suppose, but you could use a (single use) VM with some
> old windows version that still works.
> E-mailing the developers directly is the way to go to figure out whether
> you can expect an update.
>
> We had a similar problem with our own webserver (the Crystallographic
> Construct Designer ccd.rhpc.nki.nl) which was completely a java applet.
> The only real solution was a full rewrite. But that requires funding which
> we luckily got from the West-Life project.
> Keeping websites online is is not easy with changing technology and
> getting funding is hard because it is not new science.
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2019 17:43, Nicholas Keep <n.k...@mail.cryst.bbk.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> This is slightly off topic but I suspect people from PDBe etc read this
> bulletin board.
>
> Quite a number of very useful structural biology web sites (Olderado,
> Vivaldi, EMDB to name but a few) require java based viewers and hence no
> longer have full (or in the case of vivaldi any) functionality on up to
> date browsers.
>
> On a new computer it may prove hard or even impossible to find a browser
> that will work
>
> Are there plans to update these websites and is there any suggeted time
> scale?
>
> Any work rounds?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Nick
>
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> Professor of Biomolecular Science
> Crystallography, Institute for Structural and Molecular Biology,
> Department of Biological Sciences
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