Hi, You need a laptop with a NVIDIA Quadro card that supports quadbuffered 3D stereo under Linux. I found this page
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/quadro-for-mobile-workstations/ that may help find a laptop with the needed specs. For example, you can find info about a DELL laptop with a QUADRO P4200 at https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/precision-7730-mobile-workstation/spd/precision-17-7730-laptop?view=configurations but you need to make sure the display supports 120/144 Hz refresh rate. Best regards, Pedro Às 22:52 de 31/01/2019, Georg Mlynek escreveu: > > Dear all, I am considering to buy a new laptop and would like to > install the latest ubuntu version and have 3D glasses. Following the > discussions in the lasts years, this issue seems to be not trivial. > Which setup of laptop and 3D glasses will work plug and play? > > And what about VR. When is coot and pymol VR ready? > > Best regards, Georg. > > > On 31.01.19 10:54, Philippe BENAS wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I had an HP Z620 that was dual boot Kubuntu 14.03 and Win 10. Coot >> was working in stereo mode without any problem for a year or so. But >> after one of their major updates Coot crashed as soon as the built-in >> IR emitter of my Asus VG278H turned on, as described Pedro and Jan. >> >> My personal guess is that the new Win 10 kernels no longer accept >> some direct exchanges from programs to hardware parts, probably for >> safety issues. So I came to the same conclusion as Pedro: stick to >> Win 7 if you want to run Coot under Windows or use a linux >> distribution or dual boot workstation. >> >> Nevertheless PyMol was just working fine in stereo mode under Win 10. >> At least until last september when I sold my Z620 for a Z820 (Kubuntu >> 18.04/Win7). May be PyMol developers at Schrödinger could give their >> tips and tricks to Bernard Lohkamp to whom I send my warmest >> aknowledgments for porting Coot under Windows. >> >> Best regards, >> Philippe >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Philippe BENAS, Ph.D. >> >> ARN UPR 9002 CNRS >> IBMC Strasbourg >> 15, rue René Descartes >> F-67084 STRASBOURG cedex >> +33.3.8841.7109 >> E-mails: p.be...@ibmc-cnrs.unistra.fr >> <mailto:p.be...@ibmc-cnrs.unistra.fr>, philippe_be...@yahoo.fr >> <mailto:philippe_be...@yahoo.fr> >> URLs: http://www-ibmc.u-strasbg.fr/ , >> http://www-ibmc.u-strasbg.fr/spip-arn/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Le jeudi 31 janvier 2019 à 10:18:42 UTC+1, Pedro Matias >> <mat...@itqb.unl.pt> a écrit : >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> The problem with COOT stereo and Windows 10 is that the COOT binary >> is not compatible with the newer OpenGL drivers or somesuch in >> Windows 10. So, COOT runs fine in Windows 10 but crashes if you enter >> hardware stereo mode. However, PyMOL works fine in stereo in Windows 10. >> >> According to Bernhard Lohkamp, the Windows COOT developer, this >> problem has not yet been fixed because he has no access to a Windows >> 10 PC. >> >> Therefore, stick to Windows 7 if you want to run COOT stereo on a >> cheap Quadro card. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pedro >> >> Às 04:38 de 31/01/2019, Jim Fairman escreveu: >>> I had a Windows 7 machine that would run Quad buffered stereo back >>> around 2009, haven't had a chance to try with Windows 10. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 02:03 Jan Stransky >>> <jan.stransky.c...@gmail.com <mailto:jan.stransky.c...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I started looking into the never ending story of stereo in >>> crystallography... As with our standardized linux setup we >>> probably are not willing to move to X.org-world, if was >>> wondering, if anybody was succesful to make stereo working in >>> Windows 10. I did read some NVIDIA forum, and it seems that 3d >>> vision is not very supported by NVIDIA, even for gamers... Was >>> anybody able to mke it work with Geforce cards, to save few bucks? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> Dne 03.01.2018 v 10:42 Wim Burmeister napsal(a): >>>> I answer a bit late, but I repost a message on 3D graphics from >>>> Mai 2017 : >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> we just wanted to share our experience in finding a >>>> configuration which allows to use 3D graphics under linux using >>>> Nvidia GeForce 3D glasses. >>>> >>>> We had quite a hard time to find a configurations which works >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> We finally used Debian linux with a xfce desktop. Other recent >>>> desktops use a tiling which is not compatible with 3D graphics. >>>> >>>> The hardware consists of >>>> >>>> * a DELL Precision T5810 desktop computer with an Nvidia >>>> Quadro M4000 (8 Gbyte memory, 4 DP) graphics card >>>> * Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision 2 (NVIDIA GEF 3D VISION 2 GLASSES >>>> KIT) active stereo glasses >>>> * a stereo connector PNY Quadro 4000 3D for the >>>> synchronization of graphics card and glasses >>>> * an ASUS 24" LED 3D - VG248QE display >>>> * a DisplayPort-DisplayPort cable >>>> >>>> The Nvidia linux drivers from version 367.57 can handle the >>>> current version of the Nvidia glasses. >>>> >>>> For an obscure reason a direct DP-DP connection between >>>> graphics card and display is absolutely required in order to >>>> obtain fully working stereo. If a DP-DVI dual link adapter is >>>> used, the stereo does not work on the top and the bottom part >>>> of the screen. This is true for a native DELL active adaptor or >>>> generic models. The exact reason remains unresolved, but the >>>> solution is to use a direct DP-DP connection. This limits the >>>> available choice of displays which require 120 Hz for 1080*1980 >>>> screen resolution and a DP input. We have been choosing a >>>> “Nvidia 3D ready” model. >>>> >>>> There has been a considerate about of exchange about this >>>> problem on >>>> >>>> >>>> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/992892/linux/partially-working-stereoscopic-effect-with-3d-vision-under-debian-linux/ >>>> >>>> The setup comes with a price tag of about 1600 € free of taxes. >>>> >>>> coot, pymol and chimera work straight without problems in >>>> hardware stereo mode. 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