Hi Raquel,
Are u using a compressed filesystem? I recently moved everything including
/home directory to ZFS - which gave ~   1.4X compression for old adsc
images. Remember vaguely, years before, James suggested to use
aufs/unionfs. You could even enable data-deduplication to save redundant
images.

In additon to James' suggestion of amazon glacier i would recommend
'backblaze'. I mainly use it for personal backup $50/year - but storage is
unlimited. You can also get a drive FedEx -ed for retrieval. But be warned
thst the GUI sucks.

One could go for the business plan - clean commandline API based
upload/download ~ about 350 per year.

If anyone is interested 'backblaze' produce fantastic harddrive statistics.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2018-hard-drive-failure-rates/

Markus


On Friday, November 30, 2018, James Holton <
0000270165b9f4cf-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> The answer depends a lot on what you mean by "long-term storage".  Do you
> want the data to be available all the time on a mountable volume?  Or is
> putting it away on a shelf OK?  Do you want the storage to be as
> bulletproof and worry-free as possible?  Or are you OK with the fate of
> your data being somewhat nebulous, like in "the cloud"?  The price points
> for all these things are very different.
>
> You can now buy a single 8 TB drive for $230 USD.  LTO6 tapes are
> currently at ~7 USD/TB.  Both of these are the current lowest price/TB for
> disk and tape.  Using the media, of course, generally requires attaching it
> to a server that costs ~$5k-$10k USD.  Amazon Glacier is free for uploads
> and essentially free for downloading it back as long as you don't want more
> than 1 GB per month.  The other extreme is a NetApp, where you just want a
> turnkey system that keeps your data as safe as possible, but is also really
> fast.
>
> What do I do?  I am currently deploying a RAID6 array of 8 TB drives for
> high-performance storage.  For archiving I used to use DVD-R, but that
> can't keep up with a Pilatus, so now I'm on LTO6 tapes for off-line
> backups.  I know tapes are famous as "write-only media", but so far over
> the last 10 years I haven't had any real trouble reading back an old LTO
> tape.  <touch wood>
>
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
>
>
> On 11/29/2018 12:54 PM, Lieberman, Raquel L wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> How do your labs handle long-term raw data backups? My lab is maxing out
> our 6TB RAID backup (with two off-site mirrors) so I am investigating our
> next long term solution. The vast majority of the data sets are published
> structures (i.e. processed data deposited in PDB) or redundant/unusable so
> immediate access is not anticipated, but the size of data sets is
> increasing quickly with time, so I am looking for a scalable-yet-affordable
> solution.
>
> Would be grateful for input into various options, e.g. bigger HD/RAIDs,
> cloud backup, tape, anything else.
>
> I will compile.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Raquel
> ------
> Raquel L. Lieberman, Ph.D.
> Professor
> School of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>
>
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