I am currently trying to solve two datasets of two different protein-protein complexes. One of the proteins is common to both complexes and there is a deposited structure in the PDB (100% identical). The other proteins currently have not been solved and share ~50% identity between them. Both complexes crystallize in different space groups. All three proteins are ~12kDa. Both datasets diffract to ~3-3.5A.
A) C2221 109.6 110.1 335.2 90 90 90 with around 9 copies of the complex. B) I4122 131.6 131.6 257.1 90 90 90 with 5 copies of the complex. I am slightly suspicious of Dataset A due to similar a and b lengths. Merging in P4, results in higher Rmerges. However in each case, searching with the common protein, results in Phaser failing to find a single copy of the protein, despite TFZ scores of 8-12, due to rejection during packing; Dataset A Packing Table ------------- Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms i.e. total number of clashes <= 5 AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 5 # # #Clash Packs SpaceGroup Annotation 1 198 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.9 TFZ=11.2 2 154 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=10.8 3 229 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=11.5 4 161 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.0 5 118 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.8 6 166 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.1 7 199 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.0 8 165 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.0 9 167 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.1 10 168 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.8 11 186 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0 12 93 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3 13 155 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=3.1 TFZ=8.8 14 149 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.1 15 158 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.7 16 151 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.5 17 147 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=3.1 TFZ=8.6 18 145 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.8 19 130 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.8 20 166 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.4 21 215 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.0 22 147 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.1 23 189 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.6 24 164 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.2 25 166 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.3 26 234 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 27 170 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3 28 126 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1 29 189 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.4 30 171 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=9.6 31 211 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 32 203 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=10.2 33 162 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.7 34 116 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.5 35 168 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 36 159 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.6 37 91 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 38 114 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 39 212 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 40 162 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=10.1 41 182 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.9 TFZ=8.4 42 112 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3 43 131 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3 44 166 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=9.4 45 135 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.4 46 156 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.5 47 189 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 48 133 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 49 200 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.1 50 146 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.2 51 117 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 52 128 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 53 144 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0 54 148 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 55 119 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 56 131 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 57 131 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.4 58 173 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.9 59 114 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1 60 150 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6 61 150 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 62 138 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.6 63 123 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3 64 122 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 65 116 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.4 66 118 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0 67 131 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 68 96 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 69 98 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0 70 198 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.6 71 137 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.9 72 110 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 73 70 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 74 128 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 75 87 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 76 143 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 77 170 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.8 78 170 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.5 79 74 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.2 80 150 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 81 71 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 82 108 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 83 206 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 84 114 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 85 182 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 86 143 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.0 87 92 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0 88 174 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 89 185 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.2 90 111 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2 91 182 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.3 92 188 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0 93 158 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0 94 164 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6 95 155 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0 96 130 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.2 97 148 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0 98 190 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0 99 147 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 100 38 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5 101 120 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 102 133 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.4 103 141 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.7 104 166 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.3 105 88 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 106 55 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.9 107 111 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 108 61 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.5 109 159 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 110 189 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 111 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.3 112 205 NO C 2 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6 113 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=9.0 114 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.9 115 35 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6 116 36 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.6 117 59 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 118 57 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 119 55 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.5 120 59 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 121 35 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 122 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 123 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.4 124 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 125 56 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.0 126 59 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 127 37 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.0 128 51 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.2 129 69 NO C 2 2 21 RFZ=2.3 TFZ=8.0 0 accepted of 129 solutions Dataset B Packing Table ------------- Solutions accepted if total number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms i.e. total number of clashes <= 5 AND if number of clashes <= 5% of trace atoms for each ensemble i.e. ensemble1: number of clashes <= 5 # # #Clash Packs SpaceGroup Annotation 1 136 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=12.7 2 136 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=12.2 3 179 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=11.2 4 184 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=10.6 5 133 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.2 6 109 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=10.9 7 111 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=10.7 8 153 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0 9 >6 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=7.8 10 137 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0 11 169 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.8 12 189 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.6 13 184 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.7 14 208 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=9.0 15 117 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.8 16 138 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.5 17 194 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=3.2 TFZ=8.1 18 206 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.9 19 190 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.1 20 >6 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=7.4 21 66 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.4 22 >6 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=3.2 TFZ=7.7 23 185 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=9.0 24 >6 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=3.2 TFZ=7.6 25 97 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2 26 131 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0 27 180 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.7 28 81 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.2 29 194 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.5 30 135 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=9.0 31 113 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.1 32 188 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.7 33 174 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5 34 168 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.4 35 141 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0 36 188 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.6 37 139 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3 38 112 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.3 39 183 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.6 40 42 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3 41 149 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.4 42 188 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.5 43 128 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 44 142 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 45 151 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=8.2 46 171 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.6 TFZ=8.3 47 154 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.2 48 180 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.6 49 139 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 50 197 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.1 51 181 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.0 52 106 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.2 53 197 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=8.3 54 98 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.1 55 125 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 56 199 NO I 41 2 2 RFZ=2.5 TFZ=8.1 0 accepted of 56 solutions This protein is a single IgV domain. I have removed all loops, leaving behind just the beta-strands. Although this appears to place a single copies, searches for further copies fails despite an increase in the TFZ score; WARNINGS -------- $TEXT:Warning: $$ Baubles Markup $$ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Solutions with Z-scores greater than 12.0 (the threshold indicating a definite solution) were rejected for failing packing test #3 TFZ=12.0 PAK=33 #9 TFZ=12.7 PAK=61 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- $$ $TEXT:Warning: $$ Baubles Markup $$ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Solutions with Z-scores greater than 12.2 (the threshold indicating a definite solution) were rejected for failing packing test #1 TFZ=16.3 PAK=67 #2 TFZ=16.1 PAK=38 #3 TFZ=14.8 PAK=37 #4 TFZ=13.9 PAK=64 #5 TFZ=12.3 PAK=85 #6 TFZ=12.4 PAK=67 #7 TFZ=12.6 PAK=65 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- $$ So three things 1) Is this working? 2) Do I need to fragment the protein differently? As in remove some strands instead of loops? or 3) Something else? I am currently shooting crystals looking for slightly higher datasets, so If you have any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks and enjoy the weekend. Dan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1