I was just fascinated by the math: 800 x 3 = 2400, and given a 

work year of 1600 hrs this makes for 1.5 papers per hr to review…

 

I don’t remember a reference to anyone specific - YS had only about 2000 papers 
– 

so maybe there are/were even more prolific candidates 😉

 

Best, BR

 

From: George Sheldrick <gshe...@uni-goettingen.de> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 16:17
To: b...@hofkristallamt.org; ccp4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press

 

Dear Bernhard,

I agree with you sentiments, but was wondering which 'poor Russian small 
molecule crystallographer' you had in mind?

Yuri Strutchkov died in 1995. He was an excellent crystallographer but with an 
efficient team and good connections.

I can't really complain, all the fake Chinese structures in Acta E cited SHELX 
for their refinement.

Best wishes, George

 

On 04.07.2018 13:54, Bernhard Rupp wrote:

Yes, there is a problem in general with these ‘get rich quick with user data’ 

facebookoid sites. Publon seems to be another one and I had what can be 
charitably described 

as a pretty intense exchange with the dude running it. Nothing can be free (a 
concept occasionally alien 

to the purist academic) and you just pay with whatever data that will be 
exploited as a business model.

That is fine as long as the model is transparent. 

 

In response to an earlier post in this thread, complaining about review 
overload is perilous if you 

expect to get your own stuff reviewed. If you publish 10 papers a year, on 
grounds of reciprocity you 

should expect to review about 30. Almost one a week sans holidays…imagine the 
poor Russian small molecule 

crystallographers on 800 papers a year…nothing beats monopolizing a resource 
(diffractometer etc…).

So, millennials, be thankful for the democratization of crystallography, 
compliment of the synchrotron

facilities and their diligent operators confined to the subterranean dungeons 
of beam line hell. 

 

</digress>.

 

Best, BR

 

PS: Ad Elsevier: In an apparent acute attack of generosity, the Cell Press 
stuff can be shared

through links for 50 days. 

https://authors.elsevier.com/a/1XK9D3SNvbqr-6

I am responsible only for pushing the content, not for what happens with your 
data…. 

(at a second thought, don’t crystallographers also practically live to collect 
data?)

 

“To help you access and share this work, we have created a Share Link – a 
personalized URL providing 50 days' free access to your article. Anyone 
clicking on this link before August 22, 2018 will be taken directly to the 
final version of your article on ScienceDirect. No sign up, registration or 
fees are required – they can simply click and read”

 

From: CCP4 bulletin board  <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
<CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Patrick Shaw Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:59
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press

 

 

Bernhard, did you know that Researchgate is a controversial organization?  They 
have been criticised for encouraging users to upload copyrighted material, see 
below.  Their business model also seems to involve charging a high fee to spam 
their users - we tried it once but decided we were just annoying the scientists 
who happened to get our message.    (Although I agree with you that 10-yr-old 
articles are less valuable than recent ones.) 

 

An interesting model for scientific publishing is the journal Biology Direct.  
Reviewers' names and reports are published along with the article, and it's up 
to the authors to amend their article if they agree with any criticisms.  All 
you need is three reports for publication  I sent the journal what I believed 
to be a ground-breaking review explaining why we get more colds in winter than 
summer (later published in Medical Hypotheses).  I was disappointed that I only 
got one reviewer to support my article by writing a report.  But I felt that 
the format of the journal would have been be very helpful for a controversial 
topic.  Link below.

 

Patrick

 

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ResearchGate   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResearchGate#Criticisms

In September 2017, lawyers representing the International Association of 
Scientific, Technical, and Medical Publishers (STM) sent a letter to 
ResearchGate threatening legal action against them for copyright infringement 
and demanding them to alter their handling of uploaded articles to include 
pre-release checking for copyright violations and "Specifically, [for 
ResearchGate to] end its extraction of content from hosted articles and the 
modification of any hosted content, including any and all metadata. It would 
also mean an end to Researchgate's own copying and downloading of published 
journal article content and the creation of internal databases of 
articles."[40][41][42] This was followed by an announcement that takedown 
requests are to be issued to ResearchGate for copyright infringement relating 
to millions of articles.

 

 


Biology DIrect:   

 

https://biologydirect.biomedcentral.com/about/how-it-works

 

 

 

My Article : )   

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030698771500417X    (or ask 
me for PDF)

 



Criticism of Elsevier pricing.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Pricing

 

In the 21st century, the subscription rates charged by the company for its 
journals have been criticized; some very large journals (with more than 5,000 
articles) charge subscription prices as high as £9,634, far above average,[23] 
and many British universities pay more than a million pounds to Elsevier 
annually.[24] The company has been criticized not only by advocates of a switch 
to the open-access publication model, but also by universities whose library 
budgets make it difficult for them to afford current journal prices.

For example, a resolution by Stanford University's senate singled out 
Elsevier's journals as being "disproportionately expensive compared to their 
educational and research value", which librarians should consider dropping, and 
encouraged its faculty "not tocontribute articles or editorial or review 
efforts to publishers and journals that engage in exploitive or exorbitant 
pricing".[25] Similar guidelines and criticism of Elsevier's pricing policies 
have been passed by the University of California, Harvard University, and Duke 
University.[26]In July 2015, the Association of Universities in the Netherlands 
(VSNU) announced a plan to start boycotting Elsevier, which refused to 
negotiate on any  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Access> Open Access 
policy for Dutch universities. 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#cite_note-27> [27] In December 2016,  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Publishing_Group> Nature Publishing 
Groupreported that academics in Germany, Peru and Taiwan are to lose access to 
Elsevier journals as negotiations had broken down with the publisher. 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#cite_note-28> [28]

A complaint about Elsevier/RELX was made to the  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_and_Markets_Authority> Competition 
and Markets Authority. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#cite_note-29> 
[29]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 2 July 2018 at 08:01, George Sheldrick <gshe...@uni-goettingen.de 
<mailto:gshe...@uni-goettingen.de> > wrote:

Since neither I nor my university can afford Elsevier journals, I have no 
access to papers published in them. In view of their excessive profits, for 
some years I have not submitted papers to them and have declined all requests 
to referee for them. If everyone did that, they might reconsider their 
approach. I am not an Apple fan either - I use a more reasonably priced native 
Linux laptop - but have to give Apple credit for innovation.

George


On 07/01/2018 06:57 PM, Patrick Loll wrote: 

 

I think what we should do is not publish in journal families where the profit 
is above 10 per cent. Elsevier is the place to start as their profit margins 
are like those of Apple, and of competition there is none. 

 

Elsevier: Like Apple, but without the design sense.

 

 

But seriously, Adrian makes an excellent point. And the large profit margins 
wouldn’t be quite so galling, if only the publishers were able to provide 
competent and helpful administrative support; but in my recent experience, 
not-for-profit scientific society journals are actually providing better 
experiences for reviewers and authors than the big commercial ones. 

 

Pat 

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