Dear Professor Ethan, I apologize, for the partial information provided by me in the second email. For the *in vivo* assembled (as-purified) protein, we have confirmed the [4Fe-4S] cluster by CD and EPR. From the 415/280 ratio and Ferrozine assay, we have confirmed there is one [4Fe-4S] cluster / per three monomers.
So, we anticipate the [4Fe-4S] cluster between 4 cysteines out of 6 cysteines form the helices-1 of three monomers. There are also few examples in the PDB, for homo-trimeric proteins having only one [4Fe-4S] cluster. Yet so far, I have not found any example with different oligomeric states for the *in vivo* assembled (as-purified) protein VS the *in vitro* reconstituted one. Regards, Bhanu On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Ethan A Merritt <merr...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Monday, March 19, 2018 2:20:50 PM PDT PULSARSTRIAN wrote: > > Dear Professor Diana, > > > > Thank you very much for your > > comment, and we will certainly look at, if ‘domain swapping’ is any > reason > > for the trimeric nature of the protein. > > > > There are two cysteines in helix-1 and two > cysteines > > in helix 3. From our mutational studies (C to S), we confirmed in the *in > > vivo *assembled protein, that only helix-1 (the first two cysteines) form > > the Fe-S cluster. So, its altogether a completely new structure compared > to > > reconstituted protein. > > Your description of the in vivo characterization seems to be inconsistent. > > 1) 4Fe-4S cluster formed in vivo from 2 copies of helix-1, each > contributing 2 Cys. > 2) resulting in a trimer > > How would that work? > > Or is it that you are proposing that there is a single 4Fe/4S center per > trimer, > formed stochastically from 4 of the 6 available Cys residues? > > You don't mention having EPR for the in vivo assembly. > Have you determined the Fe/S stoichiometry in the trimer? > > Ethan > > > > > Regards, > > > > Bhanu > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Diana Tomchick < > > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote: > > > > > Is it possible that you have a case of domain swapping that causes the > > > trimeric assembly? > > > > > > Diana > > > > > > ************************************************** > > > Diana R. Tomchick > > > Professor > > > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > > > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > > > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd > > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=5323+Harry+Hines+Blvd&entry=gmail&source=g > >. > > > Rm. ND10.214A > > > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > > > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > > > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > > > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > > > > > > On Mar 19, 2018, at 3:07 PM, PULSARSTRIAN <bhanu.hydpri...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Sorry for the slightly off-topic question. > > > > > > I am working on a non-native, *de novo* [4Fe-4S] > > > protein, designed as a four-helix bundle. The * in vitro* reconstituted > > > protein assembles with [4Fe-4S] (confirmed by EPR) and exists in > > > monomer-dimer configuration (confirmed by SEC). These results have been > > > already published. > > > > > > Recently we could get the [4Fe-4S] assembly directly > from > > > the *E. coli* (*in vivo* assembly). Everything is as expected (compared > > > to reconstituted protein), except the oligomerization state. The > protein > > > assembles as trimer, in contrast to monomer-dimer configuration of the > > > reconstituted protein. The trimeric nature of the *in vivo* assembled > > > protein has been confirmed by SEC, SEC-SLS and SAXS. > > > > > > > > > *So, my question is, has anyone encountered such > situation, > > > where the As-purified Fe-S protein having a completely different > oligomeric > > > state compared to the in vitro reconstitution protein? * > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing for some examples and/or references. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Bhanu > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > UT Southwestern > > > > > > Medical Center > > > > > > The future of medicine, today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ethan A Merritt > Biomolecular Structure Center, K-428 Health Sciences Bldg > MS 357742, University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742 > > -- B4U