Yes - I wrote something long long ago called compar. It is still there..


you give it XYZIN1 and XYZIN2 and I think it lists all distances somewhere
E


[ed1@setsuko ~]$ compar
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 Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 2011.
 "Overview of the CCP4 suite and current developments". Acta Cryst. D67,
235-242.
 as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.

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 *** RWBROOK error: point code unit    function
 ***                    1   -4    1    MMDB_F_Open
 *** file   : XYZIN1
 *** reason : cannot open a file
 *** continue running, may crash ...

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you give it XYZIN1 and XYZIN2 and I think it lists all distances..
E

On 3 July 2017 at 13:16, James Foadi <james_fo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Eleanor.
> You do the alignment if you are looking to measure the similarity of two
> molecules after refinement or the similarity of two molecules in general.
> When you do this, like you say, you have to carry out some sort of
> alignment, i.e. you move one of the two structures so to have the highest
> degree of overlapping with the other , without any constraint. This is what
> most of the programs do (and after having done that they compute the RMSD).
> But I'm looking for a program to measure the RMSD of two fixed (un-moved)
> structures; the structures have already been moved (with the symmetry and
> unit cell origin constrain) by CSYMMATCH. Does it make sense to you?
>
> James
>
> Dr James Foadi PhD Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond House Harwell Science
> and Innovation Campus Didcot Oxfordshire OX11 0DE United Kingdom office
> email: james.fo...@diamond.ac.uk alternative email: j.fo...@imperial.ac.uk
> personal web page: http://www.jfoadi.me.uk
>
>
> On Monday, 3 July 2017, 11:59, Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dont understand your Q James..
> You have to make sort of alignment to get the RMSD surely?
> And csymmatch will just apply the symmetry and origin shifts needed for
> any comparisonn?
> E
>
> On 3 July 2017 at 11:32, Stéphane Duquerroy <stephane.duquer...@u-psud.fr>
> wrote:
>
> Hi James
> LSQMAN can calculate the current RMSD between the 2 models (RMsd_calc mol1
> range1 mol2 range2 [Ltarget])
> Be careful it renames the chain names
>
> Stephane
>
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> *De: *"James Foadi" <000009daa8ec3774-dmarc- requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk
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> *Envoyé: *Lundi 3 Juillet 2017 11:47:00
> *Objet: *[ccp4bb] RMSD between unaligned structures
>
>
> Dear ccp4 tribe,
> this might have been asked before, but I haven't paid enough attention.
>
> I'd like to measure the RMSD between two models after molecular
> replacement. I can force the two models to overlap as much as possible
> within the symmetry and origin-shift constraints (using CSYMMATCH). But I
> don't want the program that compute RMSD to align the two structures. Can
> you suggest what I should use? And, perhaps, what keywords I should adopt?
>
> Many thanks, in advance.
>
> James
>
> Dr James Foadi PhD Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond House Harwell Science
> and Innovation Campus Didcot Oxfordshire OX11 0DE United Kingdom office
> email: james.fo...@diamond.ac.uk alternative email: j.fo...@imperial.ac.uk
> personal web page: http://www.jfoadi.me.uk
>
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