Also, see figure 4 here:
http://phenix-online.org/papers/dz5209_reprint.pdf
that illustrates the difference.
Pavel

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Bernhard Rupp <hofkristall...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Fellows of the Bond,
>
>
>
> when validating a QM refined homology model with Molprobity, I noticed
> various 8 sigma deviations in the carbon-hydrogen bond distances.
>
> Out of curiosity, I then used refmac to calculate riding Hs for the same
> model, and at least in one instance (N-H backbone) there are
>
> significant differences between Molprobity and Refmac H bond distances
> (differences to the QM distances in other
>
> instances I find interesting, but less relevant for us).
>
>
>
> The riding H vs Molprobity presumably should be consistent, because if we
> use them in VDW restraints but
>
> they differ from the validation target, systematic bias will occur. I have
> no feel how significant that effect
>
> might be – maybe someone more erudite can comment.
>
>
>
> Examples
>
>
>
> distance                  MP       REF     QM
>
> backbone N-H       0.86    1.01    1.00
>
> phenyl C-H             0.93    0.93    1.09
>
>
>
> Best, BR
>
>
>
> PS: If someone has accurate experimental values for CH distances I’d
> appreciate a link.
>
> No access to CSD.
>
>
>
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