HOW sure are you of the spacegroup? The only difference between I4 ans I41
absences is that l=2n is absent for I4, l=4n for I 41.

If you have the wrong choice half your symmetry equiv molecules will be
corret but not the others..

Getting the screw axis wrong is a good way to get a reasonable but not
acceptable R factor

Eleanor

On 12 April 2017 at 16:26, Phoebe A. Rice <pr...@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>   Sometimes automated model building needs more manual intervention than
> one might expect, although it sounds like you've already carefully
> inspected the "good" regions.
>   Could you use a model of the N-ter (from a homolog) simply to create a
> solvent envelope, then see if solvent flattening (or more sophisticated
> modern solvent-massaging tricks) improves the density in that region?
>     Phoebe
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of
> Pravinkumar Jagtap [pravinja...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 1:54 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] High Rfree: Phasing issue or partial crystal disorder
>
> Dear All,
> I am stuck with this problem for 2 months and hope you could help.
>
> We have a 2.1 A dataset for a 380 amino acid long protein. The space group
> is I4 (single molecule in asymmetric unit, 48% solvent content) and the
> dataset is quite perfect (no obvious pathologies). The protein itself is
> organised in 2 lobes (N and C terminal lobes). The sequence identity to
> nearest homologue structure is 17%.
>
> We could  get the phases by SeMet SAD phasing (3A resolution dataset, 5
> SeMet (excluding N-terminal Met), 3 full occupancy SeMet in C-terminal lobe
> and 2 partial occupancy (~0.5 each; present on surface) SeMet in N-terminal
> lobe). Automated  model building (at 2.1 A) yielded nice model for the
> C-terminal lobe (215 residues)  and manually I could build parts (around 80
> residues) of N-terminal lobe with high confidence. In addition we could
> also build a ligand which is sandwiched between C and N terminal lobe.
>
> However the Rfree is stuck at 0.39 (Rwork 0.33). There is indeed some
> patchy density left at the N terminal lobe but as it is discontinuous, I
> cannot build anything in it (except lots of water molecules). In total I am
> missing around 85 residues. These residues are predicted to be present in
> secondary structure (and not flexible).
>
> As I have around 75-80% model built, I would expect that I would have all
> the phases and  should get nice density for the remaining part. But as I
> dont see it, could the rest part be flexible? But again, this is not
> reflected in the R factors (I would then expect low Rfree).
>
> Could it be that I still lack phases (due to partial occupancy of SeMeth
> in N-terminal lobe ) and have to try to get them by heavy metal soaking, or
> there is disorder in the N-terminal lobe? I have also tried solving
> different datasets for same crystal but this has not been useful.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin.
>
>

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