Hi Andrew,

Based on the atoms and distances you are mentioning, these don't sound like
steric clashes, but like a chalcogen bond between the S and O atoms, and
CH...O hydrogen bonds between the O and CH3. These are common and
well-accepted interactions, but unfortunately aren't usually treated as
such by refinement programs. Let me know if you want references for these
interaction types.

Scott

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Andrew Marshall <
andrew.c.marsh...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thank you for your suggestions. I tried the pdb file edit (making the
> offending atoms of both the ligand and the protein 'B' altconf), but it
> didn't seem to make any difference to their positions after a single round
> of refinement..?
> The atoms in the active site concern two acetyl groups - one from the
> substrate, acetyl-CoA, and the other from an acetylated cysteine in the
> protein - that I believe are poised ready for a condensation reaction. The
> closest contacts are between S and O(carbonyl) atoms (2.9A) and O and CH3
> (3.1A), but going off the density, I think these should be closer (more
> like 2.8 or 2.7A). It may be that I've trapped another reaction
> intermediate (which would be cool), but I don't think that fits the density
> quite as well. Any thoughts/ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Marshall
> PhD Candidate
> Laboratory of Protein Crystallography
> Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
> School of Biological Sciences
> The University of Adelaide
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Scott Horowitz <horow...@umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> I'm curious- what are the atoms that are clashing? I worked on this sort
>> of thing back in my Ph.D., and so I might have some useful tidbits if, for
>> example, the S is clashing with a carbon of some sort.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Andrew Marshall <
>> andrew.c.marsh...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a structure of a condensing enzyme with substrate bound. The
>>> active site is very tight, requiring some of the substrate atoms to clash
>>> with a catalytic cysteine. This means that although the substrate fits the
>>> density nicely upon manual real-space refinement, phenix recognises the
>>> clash, resulting in the displacement of substrate atoms so that they are
>>> outside the density. I can mostly fix this by using distance restraints,
>>> but I'd rather allow it to refine in a less biased manner, but ignore the
>>> clash. Is this a acceptable way forward? If so, is there a parameter I can
>>> edit to tell phenix to ignore clashes between these specific atoms?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrew Marshall
>>> PhD Candidate
>>> Laboratory of Protein Crystallography
>>> Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
>>> School of Biological Sciences
>>> The University of Adelaide
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
>> Postdoctoral Fellow
>>
>> University of Michigan
>> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
>> Bardwell lab
>> 830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>> phone: 734-647-6683
>> fax: 734-615-4226
>>
>
>


-- 
Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow

University of Michigan
Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
Bardwell lab
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phone: 734-647-6683
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