Well, I was looking at two periplasmic binding proteins, one for NO3 and one 
for CO3/HCO3, and was wondering whether the obligate cooperative Ca ion 
adjacent to the ligand only in the CO3 binder was necessary, and how in any 
case it would help distinguish the two if at all. Roger’s comments about CA are 
interesting in light of this, since there is no Ca ion involved (from what he 
said), and still CA binds so specifically to HCO3 and not NO3. I wonder whether 
the Ca ion protein I am looking at is specific for CO3 alone? I have seen this 
Ca ion phenomenon also in a lactate binding protein. Or maybe the Ca ion just 
makes the affinity much stronger than in CA’s?

Jacob Pearson Keller

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Clement 
Angkawidjaja
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 12:11 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Nitrate versus Carbonate

Dear JPK

What I know is we do not have much nitrate in the blood unlike 
carbonate/bicarbonate.
Nitrite, a nitrate byproduct can cause problems but it has a different 
structure and probably does not interfere with bicarbonate binding to relevant 
proteins.

Cheers,
Clement

From: Keller, Jacob<mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 5:41 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Nitrate versus Carbonate

Dear Crystallographers,

I don’t think there is any feasible way crystallographically to distinguish 
between nitrate and carbonate or bicarbonate—correct? But that is not my main 
question.

My main question is: given that nitrate and carbonate are both very important 
and also very different physiologically, and therefore they must be 
distinguished/recognized by cells, how is this done, since the ions are so 
similar in structure? Is there some aspect of these ions that differs 
dramatically of which I am not aware? What kind of “handles” could a protein 
grab onto to distinguish between nitrate and carbonate/bicarbonate?

JPK


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