Men,
We are are the end of a civilization. Just look at History. All signs are there.
As roman or greek empires it seems it is now our turn. Will we last another 
century or two ? May be yes. But we are inevitably towards the end.
In older civilizations common sense was maintained in large part by scientists 
who were also  the philosophers, thinkers and and some how politicians. 
Nowadays our voice is just lost into the wild...

Cheers to all and may we try our best, at our scale or on a larger one, to 
avoid a dark future...

Philippe
 Philippe BENAS, Ph.D.
X-ray diffraction and computing facilities manager

Laboratoire de Cristallographie et RMN Biologiques, UMR 8015 CNRS
Faculté de Pharmacie, Université Paris Descartes
Case 48
Av, de l'Observatoire
F-75270 PARIS cedex 06
+33.1.5373.1599
E-mails: philippe.be...@parisdescartes.fr, philippe_be...@yahoo.fr
URLs: http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/ , 
http://lcrbw.pharmacie.univ-paris5.fr/spip.php?article18



      De : David Briggs <drdavidcbri...@gmail.com>
 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
 Envoyé le : Mercredi 9 novembre 2016 8h46
 Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...
   
In the UK we have an authoritarian nationalist government seemingly hell bent 
on the destruction of our economy, so maybe give it a few years.Maybe try 
Germany? Actually - wait until after their election in 2017? Ditto for France.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 06:33 Ricardo Padua <rpa...@brandeis.edu> wrote:

Science in Brazil will struggle with the "new" government as well, so I 
wouldn't count on that.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:56 AM, kaiser <kai...@caltech.edu> wrote:

 Yeah, given Europe and Canada are obvious, I think Brazil and Japan are 
actually viable alternatives if the first choices are getting too crowded. They 
do have synchrotrons and "internets".


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------
From: "William G. Scott" <wgsc...@ucsc.edu> 
Date: 11/8/16 21:37 (GMT-08:00) 
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Subject: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ... 

What’s the job situation in Europe looking like for refugee scientists these 
days?



William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu




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Ricardo Padua
Postdoctoral fellow HHMI
Kern Lab
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA


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