Hi, just for fun and to demonstrate what can go horribly wrong if you
blindly use utilities that were specifically designed for changing the line
terminators in an ASCII file, I applied these utilities to an MTZ file.

First I used 'todos' to simulate what I suspect the technician has done:

todos < original.mtz > original+todos.mtz

Then I used 'tounix' in an attempt to recover the original file, as others
have suggested:

tounix < original+todos.mtz > original+todos+tounix.mtz

What can possibly go wrong?  The log files from mtzdump are attached - see
for yourself! (the mtzdump on original+todos.mtz went into an infinite loop
and I had to kill the process).

Cheers

-- Ian



On 6 March 2015 at 07:20, Smith Lee <
00000459ef8548d5-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> For the issue of the recovery of the mtz file, I have tried randomly to
> use excel to open one specific mtz file, however in this way all  the mtz
> files in the computer will have a excel icon (X), although the file
> extension is still .mtz. If I tried further to open one specific mtz file
> (with excel icon) with the notepad, all the mtz files will have the notepad
> icon. If I tried further to open one specific mtz file (with notepad icon)
> with the wordpad, all the mtz files will have the wordpad icon.
>
> I hope these cluses can be helpful for you to give me the advise on
> recovery of mtz files.
>
> Smith
>
>
>   On Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:51 PM, Robbie Joosten <
> robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Smith,
>
> If this is really the problem Ian describes, you can try the Linux
> programs unix2dos and dos2unix the change the line endings. A potential
> source of the problem might be copying the file with certain (S)FTP
> clients: in 'text-mode' they change the line endings to your OS default to
> be user friendly.
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
> > Ian Tickle
> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 14:04
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to recover my data
> >
> > Hi Smith
> >
> >
> > I sympathise with your plight - I have had to do similar things in the
> past for
> > other people!  I think your most fruitful course of action would be to
> talk to
> > the technician who recovered your data because only he knows what he
> > actually did to recover it.
> >
> >
> > From your description of your recovery of the PDB file it looks to me
> like a
> > line terminator issue, i.e. was the original file created in Linux,
> Windows or
> > Mac?  This is relevant because the line terminators are different and it
> > sounds like the technician didn't simply copy the file, he changed the
> line
> > terminators.  If he did the same with the MTZ file thinking it was a
> text file
> > the additional line terminators would corrupt the binary data making it
> > impossible to read with any of the CCP4 MTZ utilities.  If you can
> understand
> > exactly what the technician did you may be able to reverse it and
> recover the
> > binary data.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > -- Ian
> >
> >
> > On 5 March 2015 at 05:36, Smith Lee <00000459ef8548d5-dmarc-
> > requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Dear All,
> >
> >     Recently my computer hardware has been broken and all the data
> > has been recovered to movable hardware by technician. However I find the
> > recovered PDB file and the MTZcould not be openned by Coot. Then I open
> > the revovered PDB file by WordPad, and from WordPad I copied it to
> > notepad and save it as pdb file. I find the Coot can open the notepad
> saved
> > pdb file, thus my pdb files can be succesfully recovered from the
> hardware.
> >
> >     But will you please tell me how to have Coot open my mtz file? After
> > data recovery by the technicial, the data size of the mtz file did not
> decrease,
> > thus I think there is a way to have it recovered.
> >
> >     I have not noticed there were similar or identical posts as mine for
> > recovery data before in the CCP4 mail list.
> >
> >     Thus I am looking forward to getting a reply from you on how to
> > recover my mtz file.
> >
> >
> >     Smith
> >
> >
>
>
>

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