Thank you Prof Lewis.
Its serine residue which is getting phosphorylated. the pI of my protein is 
around 8.2. So native gel ( around pH 8.3) is also not working for me. I tried 
ion exchange at pH 7.0, 7.5 and 8.5 but my protein is either coming in flow 
through or very poorly binding to Q and SP sepharose. does any one have any 
good suggestion for finding out phosphorylation status of a basic protein with 
pI around 8.0. So far we were using mass spec on tryptic digest but I need a 
simple and relatively quick method because its not practical to run mass spec 
on each and every fractions before pooling them. 

Thanks
Dhiraj
On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Rick Lewis <r.le...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:

> is this a phosphorylation on serine, threonine or tyrosine? if so, they 
> should be quite stable between ~pH 5 and 8. the MS results are probably not 
> quantitative, just qualitative, and i would expect that the addition of a net 
> negative 2 charge from the phosphoryl group should make a difference to your 
> protein on ion exchange.
> 
> i would run a non-denaturing PAGE, and look for differences in Rf for your 
> protein. i bet that the phosphorylation has not gone anywhere near 
> completion, especially since you seem to expect a conformational change to 
> occur to accommodate the PO3, and this is not observed. if your preps are 
> clean, you shouldn't need a p'tase inhibitor.
> 
> good luck
> 
> rick
> 
> On 19/01/15 16:54, Dhiraj Srivastava wrote:
>> I am trying to crystallize a protein that I am phosphorylating in-vitro. 
>> There is no way that I can purify the phosphorylated protein from 
>> unphosphorylated one. I tried Ion exchange and gel filtration for separating 
>> them and they are not working.
>> Mass spec result shows the phosphorylation at desired site but in the 
>> crystal structure, I am not seeing density for phosphoryl group. I haven't 
>> use any phosphatase inhibitor during crystallization. is it possible that 
>> phosphoryl group is getting lost due to radiation damage or due to 
>> phosphatases, my protein is getting dephosphorylated before making crystal? 
>> I typically get crystals within 24 hours. if I am losing phosphoryl group 
>> due to radiation damage, should I still expect to see conformational changes 
>> due to phosphorylation? in phosphorylated protein, an alpha helix has to 
>> move to accommodate phosphoryl group but I am not seeing any change in that 
>> alpha helix. did any one tried to set crystal tray with phosphorylation 
>> reaction mix without further purification?
>> 
>> thank you for suggestion.
>> 
>> Dhiraj
> 
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