Dear Ursula

AMPLE is also worth trying, especially but not exclusively for smaller and predominantly helical targets. It was originally conceived for novel folds but you may well find ab initio modelling methods get closer to the real structure of distant homologs than the nearest available templates. AMPLE will produce a range of search models of different sizes, through clustering and truncation of a model set, and this sampling can be helpful. You can install Rosetta for the modelling or, thanks to Yang Zhang's efforts, take a tar file direct from his Quark server (http://zhanglab.ccmb.med.umich.edu/QUARK/) and give it to AMPLE. Higher resolution helps generally, but we have had success out to 2.9A.

Good luck

Dan


On 13/12/14 10:44, Claudia Millán Nebot wrote:
Dear Ursula,

If you have a resolution around 2.0 A you can try some of the following:

- Expand the partial solution with shelxe autotracing feature.

- Do a search with ARCIMBOLDO_LITE using the partial solution. You can fin the program at http://chango.ibmb.csic.es/arcimboldo_lite. Then, instead of searching for ideal alpha helices, you can input your solution and search for 2 copies.

Hope it helps. Best,

Claudia

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2014-12-12 22:38 GMT+01:00 Ursula Schulze-Gahmen <uschulze-gah...@lbl.gov <mailto:uschulze-gah...@lbl.gov>>:

    I am trying molecular replacement with a very poor model. The
    model consists mainly of 1 long helix and two slightly bent
    antiparallel helices. After dividing it into 2 fragments, I was
    able to find a solution for one of the fragments ( at least I
    think so after looking at maps, packing, refinement etc). But even
    if I place the first solution as fixed ensemble in phaser, I
    cannot find a solution for the second fragment ( 18% sequence
    identity). From the structure of the model and the packing it
    seems clear where the fragment should go roughly.

    Are there any other programs other than phaser that might be able
    to solve this problem? I tried already epmr and mr_rosetta without
    success.
    I also tried to just superimpose the complete model onto the
    partial solution. This results in quite nice packing, but doesn't
    refine. Is there a rigid program refinement program with very
    large convergence?

    Ursula

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