Oh I see, I though the answer follows from that. Fraction is better (or may
be fraction with a cap). Hardwiring a number may not always work. For small
crystals or small data sets or incomplete datasets say 1000 reflections may
mean 50% of the dataset.

All the best,
Pavel

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Keller, Jacob <kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>
wrote:

>  Agree with all of this—but how does it reflect on the original question
> of whether to use a percent or an absolute number?
>
>
>
> JPK
>
>
>
> *From:* Pavel Afonine [mailto:pafon...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 11:02 AM
> *To:* Keller, Jacob
> *Cc:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> choice of the size of free (or test, whatever you like to call them)
> reflections is important for three different purposes:
>
>
>
> - estimation of parameters for ML target for refinement;
>
> - map calculation (coefficients m&D in 2mFo-DFc or mFo-DFc map are
> calculated using test reflections);
>
> - validation (calculation Rfree).
>
>
>
> It is important that free reflections are evenly distributed across the
> whole resolution range, and each sufficiently thin resolution bin contains
> at least 50 test reflections so that the estimation of ML parameters is
> robust and reliable. "Sufficiently thin resolution bin" is such that ML
> parameters can be assumed constants in it.
>
>
>
> Smaller test sets will result in less stable refinements (refinement
> outcome will strongly depend on the choice of test set).
>
>
>
> Larger test sets will damage map quality (unless all reflections are used
> in map calculation).
>
>
>
> Size of free set needs to be sufficiently large so that Rfree is
> statistically meaningful.
>
>
>
> Nothing new is said above, it's all documented in the literature!
>
>
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Keller, Jacob <kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Crystallographers,
>
> I thought that for reliable values for Rfree, one needs only to satisfy
> counting statistics, and therefore using at most a couple thousand
> reflections should always be sufficient. Almost always, however, some
> seemingly-arbitrary percentage of reflections is used, say 5%. Is there any
> rationale for using a percentage rather than some absolute number like 1000?
>
> All the best,
>
> Jacob
>

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