On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Wang, Bing wrote:

Hi everyone,

I want to tell an angel between two aromatic planes which comes from two 
different molecules and cross each other.

First, I tried the easier ways. I presume these two aromatic rings are in the 
perfect planes, that is why I tried
plane_wizard.py and draw_plane_cgo.py which work very well. However after I got 
two plates by plane_wizard or draw_plane, I
don't know how to measure the angle between these two plates. I also don't know 
whether I could get the angle I wanted from
these two ways. I tried vector_angly.py which cann't loaded into pymol 
properly. If it could, how can i do to get the angel from
these two plates I drew. Solutions? Since I am in the beginner state, please 
show me details which i could follow step by step.

Second, If these two aromatic rings are not in the perfect planes, how can i 
find the best fit planes? And then find the angle
between the best fit planes? I tried svdplos.py and makeCGOplates.py which are 
downloaded on line. unfortunately both of these
can't be loaded into pymol properly. Solutions?

Thanks!

Bing Wang



Wang,

I am sure the other replies will sort your problem in PyMOL itself. But I thought it might be useful for you to consider checking any calculation of the angle works properly by using the well-established CCP4 tool GEOMCALC:

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/geomcalc.html

I (and others) use the tool to calculate butterfly bend angles in flavin rings (this involves finding the angle between two mean-plane rings). If you want any help on running it then contact me off list and I would be happy to help.

Good luck,

Oliver

PS. I really like the phrase "tell an angel". Paul Emsley's coot refers to
geometry only optimization as "send in the bond angels".

| Dr Oliver Smart                             |
| Global Phasing Ltd., Cambridge UK           |
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