Sudipta,

keep in mind that programs that detect twinning (like Xtriage) estimate
twin fraction, while refinement programs (like Refmac, phenix.refine and
others) actually refine twin fraction. This is why a discrepancy between
estimated twin fraction and refined one should not terribly surprise you!

POLYGON (http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/lv5003_reprint.pdf) is the
tool designed to answer questions like yours #5 .

All the best,
Pavel


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Sudipta Bhattacharyya <
sudiptabhattacharyya.iit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Community,
>
> Recently, we could solve a structure of DNA/protein complex through MR
> phasing. The data was initially indexed and scaled in P622 space group,
> however owing to the incompatibility of a single DNA/protein complex to fit
> in the ASU, it could not be solved in that space group (according to
> solvent content analysis). Since it was an indication of possible twining
> event, we tried MR in P321, P312 and P6 space groups respectively and
> finally got a very good solution in P65. According to phenix xtriage
> analysis, the data may be a near perfect merohedrally twinned one (twining
> fraction 0.425, Britton analysis;  0.468 H test; 0.478 ML method; with a
> possible twin operator h,-h-k,-l), however, the L test rather suggest no
> such twining event (but the graph of acentric observed, appeared slightly,
> sigmoidal compared to the straight acentric theoretical in the L test). The
> same phenomenon happened when we checked the data for possible twining in
> Truncate (twin fraction: L test: No; H test, 0.42, Murray Rust, 0.35;
> Britton ML, 0.47; possible twin operator: h+k,-k,-l).  On the other hand,
> while refining the data in Refmac5 with intensity based twin option ON,
> Refmac5 suggested a perfect merohedral twining with the fraction of
> 0.49/0.50.
>
> In the context of these confusing situation, now my questions are -
>
> 1. Is the data twinned or not?
> 2. With such a high twining fraction, is it solvable?
> 3. What refinement programs will be the best choices for refinement of
> such a twinned data?
> 4. In one of the tutorials of Refmac5 it has been suggested, in such twin
> refinement cases, to choose Rfree set in higher space group (in our case
> P6522) then expand it to lower space group (in our case P65), could anybody
> please let me know how to do that in CCP4 or else?
> 5. It is a data of 4A resolution could anyone tell me what final R/Rfree
> one could expect from a 4A data (although it may sound a dumb question...)
>
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
>
> With my best regards,
> Sudipta.
>
> Sudipta Bhattacharyya,
> Postdoctoral Research Fellow,
> Colorado State University, Fort Collins,
> Colorado, USA.
>
>
>
>

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