Do those fixes also make it to the phenix version of the library? Yes, this is the CCP4bb, but the monomer library is also used by Phenix, and a good number of structures (almost half of those deposited this year?) in the PDB now come from phenix.refine. Or in other words, is there a central, high quality monomer library shared among the two most common refinement programs? (The phenix version is more like a fork of the CCP4, I think.)

And not all fixes are obvious. Think of the thread from June 4 this year about XYP and HSZ.

https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ccp4bb;e617308e.1406

The atoms here have non-standard numbering, which would break the way sugar linkages are defined (and sugar linkages in glycoproteins are just as standard as peptide linkages are in glyco- and non-glyco-proteins.) Would this be fixed, or not, I am not sure.

I think it might encourage those of us who spot these errors to report, if there was a clear call for, or a place to submit these errors. CCP4bb might be that place; that should depend on what Garib and the phenix folk prefer.

Engin

P.S. I should, as always, say that while the libraries we use are imperfect, without them the situation would be much, much worse, so many thanks to Garib et al for their hard work.

On 6/13/14, 3:12 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:
Hi Ethan,

Maybe I miss something, but whenever an error in one of the cif-files
has been reported, be it directly to Garib, or publicly on the ccp4bb,
Garib (I assume) fixed very quickly - I don't quite understand why we
need a new term for this process?

Best,
Tim

On 06/12/2014 10:45 PM, Ethan A Merritt wrote:
[...]
Indeed.  All of the library-generation tools I am aware of are flawed in
their own idiosyncratic ways.   I think I shall start a campaign to treat
errors in the cif libraries as "bugs", and encourage people to report
these bugs in the libraries we all use just as they do for bugs in the
programs we all use.

        Ethan
[...]

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