Hi Eugene, thanks for your response.

Yes, the program is LSQKAB. No aligment is pursued, the aim is just to superpose models and get all the information as tables. Looking at old jobs (CCP4 6.2: LSQKAB version 6.2 : 13/03/09), it seems it always did the same, the results on xyz and B rms just a subset of the atoms (most) being superposed are written to the log file. This is independent on the specific PDB files in use (I have tested a few only)....can this be confirmed by you/circumvented by the user (i.e. by changing the com file) or eventualy solved?

Thanks again!

H


Quoting Eugene Krissinel <eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk>:

I would say the guess is a wrong one. SS superposition is used only as a seed for further refinement. SSM (superpose) outputs all residues (not all atoms) and marks those which get aligned. Then, superposition is done using aligned residues. Alignment != superposition.

As to LSQKAB, it's pure superposition, not alignment AFAIK. Alignment should be given to LSQKAB in form of atom pairs that should be used for superposition.

No idea what is wrong in this example though.

Eugene

On 9 May 2014, at 23:33, Tim Gruene wrote:

Dear H,

you are referring to superpose, but your logfile lists the output from
LSQKAB, which are two different programs. According to the man-page of
superpose, it uses secondary structure elements for superposition, so
maybe the missing atoms are those not part of a helix and not part of a
strand. Just a guess.

Best,
Tim

On 05/09/2014 08:05 PM, Horacio Botti wrote:
Dear all,

Why does (if it is suppossed to do so) Superpose output results for a
subset of atoms only? See a summary of log file below (just the top
lines, data on atoms, and final data and message). In the example,
results for residues 69-76 are absent, other atoms are absent as well,
but the number of atoms that were skipped in the analysis is 0 (NUMBER
OF ATOMS EXCLUDED BY RADCHK IS     0). Of course, the atoms for these
residues are present in the pdb files and no alternative conformations
are being modeled. If you display a table from the log graph window, you
find xyz RMS for all atoms including the missed atoms. I also need info
on B RMS, which are not displayed in log graph.

What can I do to get a complete log file?

Thanks in advance!

H

#CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.2.0
#CCP4I SCRIPT LOG superpose
#CCP4I DATE 09 May 2014  09:21:04
#CCP4I USER hbotti
#CCP4I PROJECT ......
#CCP4I JOB_ID 30
#CCP4I SCRATCH /tmp/hbotti
#CCP4I HOSTNAME pxf8.ipmont.lan
#CCP4I PID 8268











###############################################################
###############################################################
###############################################################
### CCP4 6.3: LSQKAB                   version 6.3 : 13/03/09##
###############################################################
User: hbotti  Run date:  9/ 5/2014 Run time: 09:21:04


Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
"The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst.
D50, 760-763.
as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.


Data line--- title ......................
Data line--- fit res MAIN 66 to 544     chain B
Data line--- match 66 to 544     chain C
Data line--- output     xyz     rms     deltas
Data line--- end



LSQKAB RUN
         ..................



     OPEN FILES AS REQUESTED
 Opening coordinate file of model to be moved

 Logical name: XYZIN2  File name: ...............
 PDB file is being opened on unit 1 for INPUT.

 MATRICES DERIVED FROM CRYST1 CARD IN COORDINATE FILE


            RF                                  RO

   0.010  -0.000   0.002   0.000       96.790   0.000 -19.210  -0.000
  -0.000   0.008  -0.000  -0.000        0.000 133.030   0.000   0.000
   0.000  -0.000   0.009  -0.000        0.000   0.000 106.024  -0.000
  -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000       -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000


 Logical name: XYZOUT  File name: ..................

 Opening coordinate file of fixed model.

 Logical name: XYZIN1  File name: ...........................
 PDB file is being opened on unit 3 for INPUT.

 MATRICES DERIVED FROM CRYST1 CARD IN COORDINATE FILE


            RF                                  RO

   0.010  -0.000   0.002   0.000       96.610   0.000 -18.928  -0.000
  -0.000   0.008  -0.000  -0.000        0.000 132.960   0.000   0.000
   0.000  -0.000   0.009  -0.000        0.000   0.000 106.156  -0.000
  -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000       -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000


FORMATTED      UNKNOWN file opened on unit   7

Logical name: RMSTAB, Filename: .....................



FORMATTED      UNKNOWN file opened on unit   8

Logical name: DELTAS, Filename: ......................


  - NO MATCH FOR WORKCD ATOM -      142CA  B  IN REFRCD FILE

 **  ZERO OCCUPANCIES IN WORKING   SET **      0.0
 **  ZERO OCCUPANCIES IN REFERENCE SET **      0.0
LSFIT
**** ATOMS IN WORKING MOLECULE(1915 TO BE REFINED)
**** ATOMS IN REFERENCE MOLECULE
    CENTROID OF "WORKING" MOLECULE  :               10.597 -61.757  22.304
    CENTROID OF "WORKING" MOLECULE  :(fractional)    0.151  -0.464   0.210
    CENTROID OF "REFERENCE" MOLECULE:               13.208 -36.008  70.253
    CENTROID OF "REFERENCE" MOLECULE:(fractional)    0.266  -0.271   0.662
    Distance between CENTROIDS      :               54.488
    Direction cosines of vector between CENTROIDS:  -0.048  -0.473  -0.880


 NUMBER OF ATOMS EXCLUDED BY RADCHK IS     0

         RMS       B DISPLACEMENT =  13.133
         AVERAGE   B DISPLACEMENT =  -8.353
         RMS     XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   0.360
         AVERAGE XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   0.245
         MAXIMUM XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   4.237






     ROTATION MATRIX:
          -0.80795 -0.52390  0.26974
          -0.52128  0.42202 -0.74173
           0.27475 -0.73988 -0.61407
 TRANSLATION VECTOR IN AS    -16.59985    12.12253    35.34469



 TRANSLATION VECTOR IN fractions of cell edge    -0.106590
0.091174    0.332951




 Natom2      ROTATED CDS        ATOMId2         Natom1    AtomId1
Bdiff   XYZDiff
3906   42.25  -30.59   71.01  N   SER B       66      7814    N   C
    66   12.086    1.362
3907   43.27  -30.91   72.03  CA  SER B       66      7815    CA  C
    66    9.649    2.287
3908   43.70  -29.70   72.95  C   SER B       66      7816    C   C
    66   10.009    1.369
3909   44.77  -29.07   72.82  O   SER B       66      7817    O   C
    66    7.790    1.385
3912   42.76  -29.40   73.86  N   ARG B       67      7820    N   C
    67   11.744    1.043
3913   42.67  -28.40   74.93  CA  ARG B       67      7821    CA  C
    67   12.507    0.564
3914   41.65  -29.05   75.90  C   ARG B       67      7822    C   C
    67   11.896    0.390
3915   40.61  -29.55   75.45  O   ARG B       67      7823    O   C
    67   12.607    0.716
3923   41.99  -29.05   77.21  N   ALA B       68      7831    N   C
    68    9.604    0.386
3924   41.22  -29.64   78.32  CA  ALA B       68      7832    CA  C
    68    9.077    0.481
3925   39.74  -29.71   78.08  C   ALA B       68      7833    C   C
    68    2.969    0.385
3926   39.12  -28.69   77.82  O   ALA B       68      7834    O   C
    68    4.235    0.500
3979   23.07  -37.77   88.38  C   ALA B       76      7887    C   C
    76   14.096    0.138
3982   22.36  -37.31   89.41  N   SER B       77      7890    N   C
    77   17.094    0.216
3983   21.48  -38.12   90.25  CA  SER B       77      7891    CA  C
    77   19.000    0.303
3984   20.25  -38.54   89.50  C   SER B       77      7892    C   C
    77   19.023    0.180
3985   19.66  -39.57   89.81  O   SER B       77      7893    O   C
    77   21.129    0.226
3988   19.85  -37.72   88.54  N   GLY B       78      7896    N   C
    78   16.028    0.157
3989   18.67  -37.92   87.71  CA  GLY B       78      7897    CA  C
    78   15.794    0.120
3990   18.62  -39.17   86.87  C   GLY B       78      7898    C   C
    78   14.368    0.161
3992   17.39  -39.61   86.58  N   ASP B       79      7900    N
C       79

.
.
.


 ROTATION MATRIX
   -0.808    -0.524     0.270
   -0.521     0.422    -0.742
    0.275    -0.740    -0.614




 PATTERSON SPHERICAL POLARS OMEGA PHI CHI  OMEGA TO AXIS ZO    PHI FROM
AXIS  XO  TO AXIS  YO

WHEN BETA=0 CAN ONLY DEFINE ALPHA + GAMMA .
WHEN BETA = 180 CAN ONLY DEFINE GAMMA - ALPHA.
 trace -0.99999118

CROWTHER (Euler) ALPHA BETA GAMMA    109.98429  -127.88448    69.62775
 SPHERICAL POLARS OMEGA PHI CHI     63.94224   -69.82162   179.82997
 DIRECTION COSINES OF ROTATION AXIS      0.30988    -0.84322     0.43928

Angle between rotation axis and Centroid vector    90.16864


***** Note: Since this angle between rotation axis and Centroid vector
is  near to 90.0 this may represent a pure rotation ***




 THE TRANSLATION VECTOR IN ANGSTROMS ALONG THE        ORTHONORMAL AXES IS
  -16.59985    12.12253    35.34469




 THE TRANSLATION VECTOR IN FRACTIONS of the CELL  EDGE IS
  -0.106590    0.091174    0.332951


    15722 ATOMS WRITTEN TO "LSQOP"

LSQKAB:   Normal Termination
Times: User:       1.4s System:    0.0s Elapsed:     0:01




###############################################################
###############################################################
###############################################################
### CCP4 6.3: PDB_MERGE                version 6.3 :         ##
###############################################################
User: hbotti  Run date:  9/ 5/2014 Run time: 09:21:05


Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
"The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst.
D50, 760-763.
as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.

Data line--- nomerge
Data line--- end
PDB file ................... has been read in.
Read in 15773 atoms from XYZIN1
PDB file /tmp/hbotti/COMP-N-TcG6PDH_30_1_pdb.tmp has been read in.
Read in 15722 atoms from XYZIN2

XYZIN2 will be appended to XYZIN1 keeping constituent chains separate.

Checking for duplication of chain A ....
... replacing duplicated chain ID A by new_chain_id E
Checking for duplication of chain B ....
... replacing duplicated chain ID B by new_chain_id F
Checking for duplication of chain C ....
... replacing duplicated chain ID C by new_chain_id G
Checking for duplication of chain D ....
... replacing duplicated chain ID D by new_chain_id H
Some chains from XYZIN2 renamed.
........
Times: User:       0.2s System:    0.0s Elapsed:     0:00

#CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 1
#CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 09 May 2014  09:21:06
#CCP4I TERMINATION OUTPUT_FILES  ........................
#CCP4I MESSAGE Task completed successfully


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