Dear Jacob,

There are a lot of potential problems with ion validation, that make obtaining 
a reliable answer difficult. If you want to datamine ion validation results, 
you can use the ready-made WHAT_CHECK files in the PDBREPORT databank for 
original PDB files or in the PDB_REDO databank for their re-refined or rebuilt 
counterparts (note that PDB_REDO does not explicitly do anything with ions,  
yet).
WHAT_CHECK uses the bond valence method to check for waters that should be ions 
and ions that should be other ions or water and mines the crystallisation 
conditions for hints of what could be there.

HTH,
Robbie

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Van: Keller, Jacob
Verzonden: 6-3-2014 20:45
Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Validity of Ion Sites in PDB

Dear Crystallographers,

I was curious whether there has been a rigorous evaluation of ion binding sites 
in the structures in the pdb, by PDB-REDO or otherwise. I imagine that there is 
a considerably broad spectrum of habits and rigor in assigning solute blobs to 
ion X or water, and in fact it would be difficult in many cases to determine 
which ion a given blob really is, but there should be at least some fraction of 
ions/waters which can be shown from the x-ray data and known geometry to be X 
and not Y. This could be by small anomalous signals (Cl and H2O for example), 
geometric considerations, or something else. Maybe this does not even matter in 
most cases, but it might be important in others...

All the best,

Jacob Keller


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