Sedimentation equilibrium or sedimentation velocity experiments by analytical centrifugation is the best method for this. ________________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of FOOS Nicolas [nicolas.f...@synchrotron-soleil.fr] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:25 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] KD of dimerization, off topic
I agree with Dave, and i suggest one more method to estimate Kd, The intrinsic fluorescence of proteins thanks to the aromatic chain side. Maybe it's also possible to have an estimation with native gels if you use prot A concentration as fixed and B protein concentration as variable. I am not sure. ________________________________________ De : CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] de la part de David Briggs [drdavidcbri...@gmail.com] Envoyé : vendredi 14 février 2014 09:13 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] KD of dimerization, off topic Hi Careina, I'm not sure you can assume that the ratio of monomer and dimer will stay constant through the column - as you say, the protein is diluted during the run, the ratio will change, unless you have a super tight dimer - which clearly you do not. Also, as the mass and the molar extinction coefficient will both double in the dimer, the relationship between absorbance and concentration will be unchanged. Typically, such these sorts of questions are answered (at least me) by equilibrium analytical centrifugation. Hth, Dave On 14 Feb 2014 08:03, "Careina Edgooms" <careinaedgo...@yahoo.com<mailto:careinaedgo...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Dear CCP4 board I have a protein that exists in equilibrium between monomer and dimer and I'm trying to calculate KD using size exclusion. The problem is that the column dilutes my sample so that if I put 20 uM on to the column, I only recover 0.5 uM in dimer fraction and 2 uM in monomer fraction. I am getting confused as to how to plot my KDs. Do I not regard my initial concentrations at all and work only with the final concentrations that come off the column? I would plot [monomer] squared vs [dimer] and I will assume that the ratio of monomer to dimer will stay constant as the protein passes through the column. (also I would calculate [dimer] using 2x monomer extinction coefficient) Does this seem a reasonable way to calculate KDs and reasonable argument? Also I am looking for good references for calculating Kds when dealing with dimerization Thanks and sorry for off topic question Careina --------------------------------------------------------------------- *SECURITY/CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: This message and any attachments are intended solely for the individual or entity to which they are addressed. This communication may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law (e.g., personal health information, research data, financial information). Because this e-mail has been sent without encryption, individuals other than the intended recipient may be able to view the information, forward it to others or tamper with the information without the knowledge or consent of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you received the communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting the message and any accompanying files from your system. If, due to the security risks, you do not wish to receive further communications via e-mail, please reply to this message and inform the sender that you do not wish to receive further e-mail from the sender. (fpc5p) ---------------------------------------------------------------------
