You can increase the formate concentration and it will be a cryoprotectant
on its own.  Test increasing amounts until you find the concentrationthat
freezed clear as glass and the transfer your crystal to this.  We did this
with sodium formate at 7 M quite easily.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Tim Gruene <t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> wrote:

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> Dear Junyu,
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> You can test cryo conditions conveniently in the absence of your
> crystals if you have access to e.g. an inhouse machine. Prepare your
> solutions with the usual suspects (PEG400; PEG400+glycerol;
> butanediol; Na Malonate etc. pp.) at various concentrations, pick up a
> large as possible drop with a nylon loop and take a shot to see if you
> have ice rings.
> Try to be on the safe side with respect to the decision about the
> minimal concentration because the presence of the crystal might give a
> slightly different result.
>
> Best,
> Tim
>
> On 12/16/2013 10:36 PM, Xiao, Junyu wrote:
> > Dear all, sorry if this topic does not interest you. I wonder
> > whether anyone has experience with freezing crystals grown in ~0.2
> > M Magnesium Formate. Garman and Mitchell suggested that "A major
> > anomaly is solution 44, 0.2 M magnesium formate, which requires 50%
> > glycerol for cryoprotection" in their 1996 paper (J Appl. Cryst.
> > 29, 584-587).  Since 50% glycerol is kind of harsh, I wonder
> > whether anyone has tried alternative cryo protectant. Your kind
> > help will be highly appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards, Junyu
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------- Junyu
> > Xiao, Ph.D. University of California, San Diego Leichtag Room 283
> > 9500 Gilman Drive, 0721 La Jolla, CA 92093-0721 Lab phone:
> > 858-822-0684
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> >
> >
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