Dear Phil,

I used PHASER to do the task. I have double checked and  both files have
the same prefix, so they are from the same output. I have also checked the
headers again, they have the same spacegroup. Actually I was trying to
search for two different molecules but only one was found. The spacegeoup
is P2 and I am quite sure it is not P21 from system absence.

One possibility is that the space group was wrong, since there is a 95% off
origin peak. There are several choices from data processing, P1, P2, C2
C222, all have this large off origin peak. I wonder if this 95% peak can
tell some information?

It will not surprise me if this result is incorrect, however how could
these regular density be?

Best,
Niu


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Phil Jeffrey <pjeff...@princeton.edu>wrote:

> Hello Niu,
>
> 1.  We need extra information.  What program did you use ?  What's the
> similarity (e.g. % identity) of your model.  What's your space group ? Did
> you try ALL the space groups in your point group in ALL the permutations
> (e.g. in primitive orthorhombic there are 8 possibilities).
>
> 1a.  My best guess on limited info is that you've got a partial solution
> in the wrong space group with only part of the molecules at their correct
> position.
>
> 2.  I recently had a very unusual case where I could solve a structure in
> EITHER P41212 or P43212 with similar statistics, but that I would see
> interpenetrating electron density for a second, partial occupancy molecule
> no matter which of these space groups I tried (and it showed this when I
> expanded the data to P1).  Might conceivably be a 2:1 enantiomorphic twin,
> in retrospect, but we obtained a more friendly crystal form.  I hope you
> don't have something like that, but it's possible.
>
> Phil Jeffrey
> Princeton
>
>
> On 11/14/13 5:22 PM, Niu Tou wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have a strange MR case which do not know how to interpret, I wonder if
>> any one had similar experiences.
>>
>> The output model does not fit into the map at all, as shown in picture
>> 1, however the map still looks good in part regions. From picture 2 we
>> can see even clear alpha helix. I guess this could not be due to some
>> random density, and I have tried to do MR with a irrelevant model
>> without producing such kind of regular secondary structure.
>>
>> This data has a long c axis, and in most parts the density are still not
>> interpretable. I do not know if this is a good starting point. Could any
>> one give some suggestions? Many thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>> Niu
>>
>>
>>
>

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