Dear Prof. Read,

Thank you for your detailed explaination. I think now I am clear about what
each set of scores represent. But what do you mean by what the .sol should
show? I did "make it up" by selecting two solutions sets from two different
runs, and I am sorry for not making it clear at the begining.

Thank you so much!

Sincerely,
Chen


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Randy Read <rj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Chen,
>
> For each component that is placed, Phaser reports the Z-scores for the
> rotation function (RFZ) and translation function (TFZ), along with the
> number of packing clashes (PAK) at this point and the LLG.  For the top
> solution at that point in the search, Phaser also reports the
> TFZ-equivalent (TFZ=) score, which is what the Z-score would have been for
> the translation search if the refined orientation from the rigid-body
> refinement had been used.  We introduced the TFZ-equivalent to eliminate
> the dependence of the TFZ on the quality of the orientation used for the
> particular translation search that (after refinement) ended up giving the
> best solution.  However, it takes some CPU time to compute a random
> sampling of translations for that orientation, so we only do it for one
> solution after adding each component.
>
> Your .sol file doesn't quite make sense in terms of what it should show.
>  Did you make it up to illustrate your point?  What you might see is that,
> for the top solution, the first LLG value (from placing the first
> component) is lower the the corresponding LLG value for a solution lower in
> the final list.  However, you might see a TFZ== entry immediately after the
> first LLG for whichever solution had the highest LLG at that point in the
> search.  If a solution that was worse after placing the first component
> ends up with the top LLG after adding the second component to that
> solution, then there will be a TFZ== entry after the second LLG value
> (corresponding to the LLG after placing the second component.
>
> I hope that helps!  There's also an explanation on our Phaser Wiki:
> http://www.phaser.cimr.cam.ac.uk/index.php/Molecular_Replacement#Annotation,
> which gets into some even more obscure aspects of this annotation line.
>
> Randy Read
>
> On 31 Jul 2013, at 01:24, Chen Zhao <chenzhaoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am sorry for my new-comer question, but I am not clear what the multiple
> RFZ, TFZ, PAK and LLG scores belong to after each solution set in the
> phaser output (eg. .sol) file. My bet is that each of them corresponds to
> each of the solutions listed below, but I am not sure. Also I know that
> TFZ== represents the TFZ score based on the refined orientation, but why
> does it sometimes appear in the middle instead of at the end?
>
> One example could look like this:
>
> SOLU SET *RFZ=5.4 TFZ=3.6 PAK=0 LLG=67* TFZ==1.8 *RFZ=2.2 TFZ=5.1 PAK=3
> LLG=91* LLG=102
> SOLU SPAC XXX
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER X X X FRAC X X X BFAC X
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER X X X FRAC X X X BFAC X
> SOLU ENSE ensemble1 VRMS X
> SOLU ENSE ensemble2 VRMS X
>
> SOLU SET* RFZ=4.2 TFZ=2.8 PAK=0 LLG=51* *RFZ=3.1 TFZ=5.1 PAK=1 LLG=71
> LLG=86 *TFZ==5.3
> SOLU SPAC XXX
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER X X X FRAC X X X BFAC X
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER X X X FRAC X X X BFAC X
> SOLU ENSE ensemble1 VRMS X
> SOLU ENSE ensemble2 VRMS X
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Sincerely,
> Chen
>
>
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