Hi Wei

Are you saying that the highest 9 peaks in your list that you highlighted
correspond to disulphide-disulphide vectors and the rest don't?  Actually
of the 9 only 3 are independent, the other 6 are related by the 3-fold so
you need to take that into account in your calculation of the no of peaks
expected.  AFAICS on a superficial check none of the intra-asymmetric unit
vectors appear in the complete list (all the ones in the list seem to be
too far from the origin) & since you didn't specify your unit cell
dimension it's impossible to verify whether any of the inter- vectors
appear in the list.

Just to be clear: this is a SAD Patterson you're talking about, not a
native Patterson, right?  If the latter it wouldn't surprise me at all that
you don't see any S-S <=> S-S peaks.  Could you give more details of your
data processing protocol & data quality indicators? - likely that's the
source of your problem.

Cheers

-- Ian


On 25 January 2013 07:07, Wei Feng <ccp4...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I have a Zn-free insulin crystal and there are 3  *disulfide bonds* in
> one asymmetry unit.*
> *
> ATOM     43  SG  CYS A   6      20.112  40.351  32.363  1.00
> 16.55           S
> ATOM     49  SG  CYS A   7      24.024  47.785  30.285  1.00
> 22.23           S
> ATOM     76  SG  CYS A  11      21.504  38.985  32.424  1.00
> 17.77           S
> ATOM    167  SG  CYS A  20      16.482  31.957  26.203  1.00
> 15.38           S
> ATOM    240  SG  CYS B   7      25.993  46.755  30.463  1.00
> 18.58           S
> ATOM    336  SG  CYS B  19      17.764  32.878  25.093  1.00
> 15.26           S*
>
> *The space group of the crystal is < I213>.
> As we konw, there are 12 symmetry operations of the space group I213, so
> there will be
> 3*12=36  disulfide bond in the unit cell.
> And the number of the patterson peaks of these disulfide bond should be
> 36*(36-1)=1260
> But when we use FFT to calculate the patterson peaks of it, only 9 peaks
> (Peak height >6.0)are found.
>
> *ATOM      6  OW  WAT X   1      37.672   6.512  20.437  9.13
> 9.13           O
> ATOM      6  OW  WAT X   2      20.437  37.672   6.512  9.13
> 9.13           O
> ATOM      6  OW  WAT X   3       6.512  20.437  37.672  9.13
> 9.13           O
> ATOM     13  OW  WAT X   4      31.906  26.078  16.823  7.99
> 7.99           O
> ATOM     13  OW  WAT X   5      16.823  31.906  26.078  7.99
> 7.99           O
> ATOM     13  OW  WAT X   6      26.078  16.823  31.906  7.99
> 7.99           O
> ATOM      7  OW  WAT X   7      24.775  30.019   8.741  6.74
> 6.74           O
> ATOM      7  OW  WAT X   8      30.019   8.741  24.775  6.74
> 6.74           O
> ATOM      7  OW  WAT X   9       8.742  24.775  30.019  6.74
> 6.74           O
> *ATOM      8  OW  WAT X  10      25.060  34.755  10.969  4.24
> 4.24           O
> ATOM      8  OW  WAT X  11      34.755  10.969  25.060  4.24
> 4.24           O
> ATOM      8  OW  WAT X  12      10.969  25.060  34.755  4.24
> 4.24           O
> ATOM     10  OW  WAT X  13      38.803  11.242  19.278  4.04
> 4.04           O
> ATOM     10  OW  WAT X  14      11.243  19.278  38.803  4.04
> 4.04           O
> ATOM     10  OW  WAT X  15      27.561  19.278  38.803  4.04
> 4.04           O
> ATOM     10  OW  WAT X  16      38.803  27.561  19.278  4.04
> 4.04           O
> ATOM     19  OW  WAT X  17      31.656  29.083  22.684  3.83
> 3.83           O
> ATOM     19  OW  WAT X  18      22.684  31.656  29.083  3.83
> 3.83           O
> ATOM     19  OW  WAT X  19      29.083  22.684  31.656  3.83
> 3.83           O
> ATOM     17  OW  WAT X  20      29.945  29.101  21.650  3.59
> 3.59           O
> ATOM     17  OW  WAT X  21      21.650  29.945  29.101  3.59
> 3.59           O
> ATOM     17  OW  WAT X  22      29.101  21.650  29.945  3.59
> 3.59           O
> ATOM      1  OW  WAT X  23      19.402  13.112   0.000  3.53
> 3.53           O
> ATOM     24  OW  WAT X  24      34.640  34.640  34.640  3.50
> 3.50           O
> ATOM     21  OW  WAT X  25      31.626  23.245  37.418  3.37
> 3.37           O
> ATOM     21  OW  WAT X  26      37.418  31.626  23.245  3.37
> 3.37           O
> ATOM     21  OW  WAT X  27      23.245  37.418  31.626  3.37
> 3.37           O
> ATOM     20  OW  WAT X  28      23.826  29.990  26.590  3.35
> 3.35           O
> ATOM     20  OW  WAT X  29      26.590  23.826  29.990  3.35
> 3.35           O
> ATOM     20  OW  WAT X  30      29.990  26.590  23.826  3.35
> 3.35           O
> ATOM      9  OW  WAT X  31      11.321  28.206  36.494  3.33
> 3.33           O
> ATOM      9  OW  WAT X  32      28.206  36.494  11.321  3.33
> 3.33           O
> ATOM      9  OW  WAT X  33      36.494  11.321  28.206  3.33
> 3.33           O
> ATOM     23  OW  WAT X  34      33.090  30.414  36.290  3.22
> 3.22           O
> ATOM     23  OW  WAT X  35      30.414  36.290  33.090  3.22
> 3.22           O
> ATOM     23  OW  WAT X  36      36.290  33.090  30.414  3.22
> 3.22           O
> ATOM     11  OW  WAT X  37      11.962  19.803  33.965  3.21
> 3.21           O
> ATOM     11  OW  WAT X  38      33.965  11.962  19.802  3.21
> 3.21           O
> ATOM     11  OW  WAT X  39      19.803  33.965  11.962  3.21
> 3.21           O
> ATOM     14  OW  WAT X  40      37.964  18.211  35.654  3.20
> 3.20           O
> ATOM     14  OW  WAT X  41      18.211  35.654  37.964  3.20
> 3.20           O
> ATOM     14  OW  WAT X  42      35.654  37.964  18.211  3.20
> 3.20           O
> ATOM      5  OW  WAT X  43      13.907   5.734   5.035  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM      5  OW  WAT X  44       5.734   5.035  13.907  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM      5  OW  WAT X  45       5.035  13.907   5.734  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM     15  OW  WAT X  46      27.533  22.090  19.525  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM     15  OW  WAT X  47      19.525  27.533  22.090  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM     15  OW  WAT X  48      22.090  19.525  27.533  3.19
> 3.19           O
> ATOM     12  OW  WAT X  49      20.446  14.674  21.092  3.17
> 3.17           O
> ATOM     12  OW  WAT X  50      21.092  20.446  14.674  3.17
> 3.17           O*
> *
> Can you tell me why? Thank a lot!
> Wei
>
>
>

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