Just to add to Herman's suggestions, if you are trying to crystallise a
protease then you could also try using the S195A variant rather than an
inhibitor. This would certainly be the case if you ever want to
co-crystallise in a substrate, as PPACK (or the like) would occupy the
active site cleft and prevent formation of the protease-substrate complex.

Tom


**
> Hi John,
>
> This is really an amazing wild west story: the man who crystallizes faster
> than his protease! I really must compliment you with how you successfully
> performed these experiments!
>
> Unfortunately, proteins usually do not crystallize that fast (at least not
> in my hands), so in these cases other methods have to be used. As has
> mentioned before, protease inhibitors are the way to go. Especially with
> autolysis, as one protease cuts another one, the speed of the reaction goes
> with the square of the protease concentration. Whereas in dilute solutions
> not much happens, as soon as you start to concentrate towards
> crystallization conditions, say 10 mg/ml, degradation suddenly goes very
> fast.
>
> There are 2 cases to consider:
> 1) the protein you want to crystallize is a protease and is destroying
> itself. In this case you need to cocrystallize with a potent and specific
> inhibitor. With serine proteases, Wolfram Bode was very successful by using
> chloromethylketone-containing peptides (e.g. PPACK). These compounds would
> make covalent links with both the active site serine and histidine,
> effectively killing any protease activity.
>
> 2) the protein you want to crystallize is not a protease and it is a
> contaminant which is causing the problems. In this case I would add a
> protease inhibitor coctail in an earlier step of the purification to block
> the protease before the final purification steps. I would also add some
> small broad protease inhibitor e.g. PMSF to the protein solution used for
> crystallization.
>
> Herman
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *John
> Domsic
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:22 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation in crystal
>
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Speed is definitely a big factor here.  With a protein I work with I can
> get large crystals in myriad conditions that only diffract to about 4-5
> Ang.  What I ended up doing was taking these crystals and seeding entire
> screens.  I found that not only would crystals appear sooner but it
> revealed novel crystallization conditions.  These seeded crystals would
> appear within minutes as Preben described and diffracted to better than 2
> Ang.  Another thought would be to try limited proteolysis to see if you can
> identify a more stable construct.
>
> -John
>
> --
>
> John Domsic
> Postdoctoral Fellow
> Gene Expression and Regulation Program
> The Wistar Institute
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:17 AM, jens Preben Morth 
> <j.p.mo...@ncmm.uio.no>wrote:
>
>> Dear Lisa
>> It is not uncommon to see breakdown products when you run crystals on
>>  gel. Espesially if they are older crystals, sometimes you even see higher
>> molecular bands, these are probably due to intra molecular cross links
>> formed over time.
>> If you are worried about stability, try to increase the crystallization
>> speed, we have one example where we see a clear difference in both crystal
>> quality and even space group depending on when we fish the crystals. The
>> crystals appear within 5 min,  the best quality data sets come from
>> crystals  we fish after only 30-60 min.
>> You may also have a little protease contamination of course, to prevent
>> this add protease inhibitor, or DTT, or EDTA to you protein before you set
>> it up.
>> cheers Preben
>>
>>
>> On 1/16/13 12:14 PM, LISA wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have an 36KD protein which can be crystallize in two days. Most of the
>>> crystals are very big. But all cystals have poor resolution,lower than 3.8
>>> A. I picked some crystals, washed them in the mother solution and then run
>>> SDS-PAGE. It is surprised to find that different cystals have different
>>> components. Some crystals have several samll bands below the band of the
>>> protein. And in some crysals the bigger size band (as the construct should
>>> be) almost disappared and have smear. Does the protein was degradated in
>>> the crystals? Did someone met the similar problem as I? Thanks
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> lisa
>>>
>>
>> --
>> J. Preben Morth, Ph.D
>> Group Leader
>> Membrane Transport Group
>> Nordic EMBL Partnership
>> Centre for Molecular Medicine Norway (NCMM)
>> University of Oslo
>> P.O.Box 1137 Blindern
>> 0318 Oslo, Norway
>>
>> Email: j.p.mo...@ncmm.uio.no
>> Tel: +47 2284 0794 <%2B47%202284%200794>
>>
>> http://www.jpmorth.dk
>>
>
>


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