On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Tim Gruene <t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> wrote:

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> Dear Sebastiano,
> 
> if the output of GO.COM produces an mtz-file you can use for phasing
> or refinement, I am very confident there is a scaling step involved.

Sorry, my bad.
I meant there's no XSCALE nor scala that has been run. CORRECT does the scaling.

> This might also be an explanation for the discrepancy you point out:
> With FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE the statistics which affects the rejection of
> outliers would have more reflections within each group of symmetry
> related reflections and hence a greater spread which might lead to the
> rejection of some of the classes. But this is a mere guess.

The way I performed the two runs was by running CORRECT step of XDS followed by 
XDSCONV, f2mtz and cad.

When working with the FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag on, CORRECT outputs F(+), F(-) but 
also merged F.
I was expecting those were merged identically to the case in which 
FRIEDEL'S_LAW is off.
But maybe your point is correct.

Thanks,
s

> Cheers,
> Tim
> 
> On 01/16/2013 02:03 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.
>> 
>> The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS
>> is that I have refined a structure using the mtz output by the
>> GO.COM automatic reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which
>> does not involve a scaling step (I discovered recently). I was
>> willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I
>> used in the refinement's high resolution bin. I will definitely
>> give xprep a try.
>> 
>> Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic
>> procedure (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating
>> with XDS CORRECT keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a
>> different number of reflections in the final mtz.
>> 
>> In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the
>> FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:
>> 
>> 
>> =TRUE: 11551 reflections
>> 
>> *  Resolution Range :
>> 
>> 0.00043    0.11138     (     48.225 -      2.996 A )
>> 
>> * Sort Order :
>> 
>> 1     2     3     0     0
>> 
>> * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number     150)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
>> =======================
>> 
>> 
>> Col Sort    Min    Max    Num      %     Mean     Mean   Resolution
>> Type Column num order               Missing complete          abs.
>> Low    High       label
>> 
>> 1 ASC      0      29      0  100.00     13.7     13.7  48.22   3.00
>> H  H 2 NONE     0      16      0  100.00      4.7      4.7  48.22
>> 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32      32      0  100.00      0.5     12.2
>> 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE    1.4   292.0     0  100.00    19.40
>> 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE    0.1     4.3     0  100.00
>> 0.70     0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE    0.0     1.0     0
>> 100.00     0.95     0.95  48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
>> 
>> 
>> No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS    11551
>> 
>> 
>> =FALSE: 11643 reflections
>> 
>> * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions
>> above)
>> 
>> 100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.0000   90.0000  120.0000
>> 
>> *  Resolution Range :
>> 
>> 0.00043    0.11138     (     48.225 -      2.996 A )
>> 
>> * Sort Order :
>> 
>> 1     2     3     0     0
>> 
>> * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number     150)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
>> =======================
>> 
>> 
>> Col Sort    Min    Max    Num      %     Mean     Mean   Resolution
>> Type Column num order               Missing complete          abs.
>> Low    High       label
>> 
>> 1 ASC      0      29      0  100.00     13.7     13.7  48.22   3.00
>> H  H 2 NONE     0      16      0  100.00      4.7      4.7  48.22
>> 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32      32      0  100.00      0.5     12.2
>> 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE    1.4   291.9     0  100.00    19.40
>> 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE    0.1     4.3     0  100.00
>> 0.67     0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE  -13.6    13.2    69
>> 99.41    -0.01     0.69  48.22   3.00   D  DANO 7 NONE    0.0
>> 5.7    69   99.41     1.13     1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGDANO 8
>> NONE     0       2      0  100.00      0.0      0.0  48.22   3.00
>> Y  ISYM 9 NONE    0.0     1.0     0  100.00     0.95     0.95
>> 48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
>> 
>> 
>> No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS    11643
>> 
>> 
>> Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?
>> 
>> Thanks, ciao, s
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene <t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Sebastiano,
>> 
>> you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined
>> resolution shells.
>> 
>> Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this
>> and why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The 
>> statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
>> 
>> Best, Tim
>> 
>> On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number
>>>>> of resolution bins appearing in the table:
>>>>> 
>>>>> SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE >= -3.0 AS
>>>>> FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION
>>>>> 
>>>>> of CORRECT.LP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by
>>>>> XSCALE, in which you can change the resolution bins with the
>>>>> keyword RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by
>>>>> the CORRECT job of XDS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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