Hi Rhis,
It may have been suggested already but still...
X-ray fluorescence spectra can often tell you what elements you may be dealing 
with. Spectra won't tell anything about binding specifics, but any extra bit of 
information could help. Any descent synchrotron MX beamline, equipped for 
MAD/SAD phasing, should be able to help. Of course, spectroscopy beamlines 
would be even better.
Cheers,
N.

Ruslan Sanishvili (Nukri), Ph.D.

GM/CA-CAT
Biosciences Division, ANL
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Argonne, IL 60439

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-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of RHYS 
GRINTER
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:51 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Strange Density

Dear Community,

As I'm a relatively new to protein crystallography this might turn out to be an 
obvious question, however.

I'm working on the structure of a enzyme requiring Ca2+ for activity and with 
calcium coordinated in the active site by Asp and 2x backbone carbonyl groups, 
in a crystal structure with Ca in the crystallisation conditions 
(http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t401/__Rhys__/MDC_TD_15A.jpg). 
When Ca is omitted from the crystallizing conditions and a divalent chelator 
(EGTA) is added the crystals are of significantly lower resolution (3.13A). 
Refinement of this data reveals density for a molecule coordinated by the Ca 
coordinating Asp and backbone, however this density is significantly further 
away (3.4-3.8A) too far away for water or a strongly coordinated divalent 
cation(http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t401/__Rhys__/MDC_EGTA_315.jpg). The 
density is also much weaker than for Ca in the previous model disappearing at 
3.5 sigma.

The crystallisation conditions for the Ca free condition is:

0.1M Tris/Bicine buffer [pH 8.5]
8% PEG 8000
30% Ethylene Glycol
1mM EGTA

The protein was purified by nickel affinity/SEC and dialysed into: 
20mM NaCl 
20mM Tris [pH 8.0]


A colleague suggested that sulphate or phosphate could fit at these distances, 
but these ions have not been added at any stage of the crystallisation process. 


Could anyone give me some insight into what this density might represent?

Thanks in advance,

Rhys Grinter
PhD Candidate
University of Glasgow

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