HKL or most probably SCALEPACK know nothing above point group if you do not 
tell it.
But even in GUI one can use "hkl matrix" with the needed transformation matrix 
:-\  
What is nice about it that it will never let you to change the handedness of 
the data, so anomalous signal is safe…
FF
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On May 7, 2012, at 23:48 , Jacob Keller wrote:

> Is it true that HKL adopts the naming convention of putting the screw axes 
> first and then naming a<b<c if possible, whereas CCP4 just makes the cell 
> a<b<c? E.g., would HKL ever output by default a p22121 dataset, or would it 
> automatically be p21212?
> 
> JPK
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ethan Merritt <merr...@u.washington.edu> 
> wrote:
> On Monday, May 07, 2012 01:09:25 pm Shya Biswas wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I was wondering if anyone knows how to convert the P21221 to P21212
> > spacegroup in HKL2000. I scaled the data set in P21212 in HKL 2000 but I
> > got a correct MR solution in P21221 spacegroup.
> 
> Shya:
> 
> Scaling is done in a point group, not a space group.
> 
> The point group P222 contains both space groups P2(1)22(1) and P2(1)2(1)2,
> so your original scaling is correct in either case.
> 
> It is not clear from your query which of two things happened:
> 
> 1) The MR solution kept the same a, b, and c axis assignments but made a
> different call on whether each axis did or did not correspond to a 2(1) screw.
> In this case you don't need to do anything to your files.  Just make sure
> that you keep the new space group as you go forward into refinement.
> 
> 2) The MR solution kept the orginal screw-axis identifications but
> permuted the axes to the standard setting (non-screw axis is labelled "c").
> In this case you will need to construct a file containing the permuted
> indices.  For example, the reflection originally labeled  (h=1 k=2 l=3) is now
> (h=3 k=1 l=2).  There are several programs that can help you do this,
> including the HKL2000 GUI.   But you do not need to go back into HKL
> if you don't want to.  You could, for example, use the ccp4i GUI to
> select
> -> Reflection Data Utilities
>   -> Reindex Reflections
>      Define Transformation Matrix by entering reflection transformation
>      h=l k=h l=k
> 
> 
>        Ethan
> 
> 
> > I have a script file that
> > runs with scalepack but was wondering if there is an easier way to do it
> > with HKL2000 gui mode.
> > thanks,
> > Shya
> >
> 
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> Ethan A Merritt
> Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
> University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742
> 
> 
> 
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