There can be many different reasons why EDS calculates an R-value that is different from the one reported by the authors - some of these are listed here: http://eds.bmc.uu.se/eds/eds_help.html#PROBLEMS

Back in the "dark ages" (actually, the late 90s) we arbitrarily decided to use a tolerance of 5 percentage points. If the difference is greater, we assume that -as some people have subtly put it- we are a bunch of incompetent morons who can't even calculate a map, and we choose not to make the maps and statistics derived in the process of calculating them available. So, if anything, the phrase "unreliable map" means just that - we cannot be sure that we have done a good job at calculating the map, and would rather be safe than sorry.

Once upon a time, we asked crystallographers to help us trace the causes of any discrepancies for their entries so that we could improve EDS and the public archive. However, no good deed goes unpunished (ask Colin), and this request resulted in so much abuse from several prominent crystallographers (incl. a Nobelist) that we abandoned that effort. (I don't think any of them had actually tried to download the coordinates and structure factors from the PDB and calculate maps from those themselves... one of them subsequently tried and found himself unable to reproduce his own R-value...)

Nowadays, EDS in Uppsala is unfunded and unstaffed. It is an automatic script that runs every weekend. Obviously, that means that we cannot offer support, let alone do new development work. In the future, EDS will rise from its ashes at PDBe - at that stage, we can reconsider many choices we made for the Uppsala version and will also have resources to maintain and support it properly.

--Gerard



Dear all,

A minor point but worth mentioning, I think...

The EDS server does not produce a density map for PDB entries for which it cannot calculate R-factors within 5 percentage points of the published values. I understand that the server was set up in the dark ages of crystallographic refinement, when people perhaps took some liberties with their refinement protocols. Hopefully, the educational point now has been made so wouldn't it be better to calculate the map together with a warning of the discrepancy in R-factor values?

Coot does display a map for such a PDB entry, but with a pop-up window warning the user that "This is not a reliable map." Without explanation, this statement is at least as unreliable as the map that it refers to and bound to confuse and alarm the user who - in the large majority of cases - finds himself/herself staring at a perfectly decent (reliable?) map.

Luca

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Best wishes,

--Gerard

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