It's bang on the Y axis.... I'd just ignore it (treat it as just noise) and 
work on the rest of the model. There seems to be some trouble in other parts of 
it. (Had a similar case but at 3.5 A data).  I wonder what is the gap between 
Rfree and Rwork.

And I'm curious for what more experienced people will say about it.

Carlos


Em 01/12/2011, às 11:06, Mark J van Raaij escreveu:

> although it is hard to see in 3 2D views, some of the tentacles appear 
> connected to the protein, could they result from some of the long Lys or Arg 
> side-chains not following the 4-fold symmetry? i.e. alternative conformations?
> The density on the 4-fold may be ions, solvent, some metal ion? "Noise 
> appears to collect on symmetry axes" (for want of a better way to put it), so 
> the sigma-levels there are not very reliable. Sometimes one sees quite strong 
> negative peaks on symmetry axes that can not be explained, so I would expect 
> spurious positive peaks to also occur. Of course we normally just put a water 
> in it if it can make reasonable hydrogen bonds.
> 
> Mark J van Raaij
> Laboratorio M-4
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> c/Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://www.cnb.csic.es/content/research/macromolecular/mvraaij
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 Dec 2011, at 10:36, Martin Montgomery wrote:
> 
>> Posting on behalf of Katia Baranova (see below).  Any suggestions gratefully 
>> received!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> we have a puzzling density and hope someone has an idea of what it may be.
>> 
>> The pictures of it are here:
>> 
>> http://www.mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/images/mystery/top.png
>> http://www.mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/images/mystery/front.png
>> http://www.mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/images/mystery/side.png
>> 
>> The space group is I422, resolution 1.6A
>> 
>> The trial contained Tris, DTT, EDTA, sodium, potassium, phosphate, and 
>> chloride.
>> 
>> The centre of our unknown feature is about 3.8A from the Arg and it is also 
>> on the four fold symmetry axis.
>> It is + 28 sigma in the center and  about + 9.5 sigma in each of the 
>> "tentacles".
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Katia.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:30, Katia Baranova wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Well, it doesn't work.
>>> Can you forward it please?
>>> 
>>> thanks a lot,
>>> 
>>> K
>>> 
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