Yes, I have read that paper (a seminal one and the source of the
"Henderson limit," no?), and saw that the best "deal" is electrons, I
think, but I was just delighted to learn that it doesn't happen in
practice. As I recall, x-rays are the worst deal?

JPK

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Murray, James W
<j.w.mur...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>Wow, neutrons are pretty cool! No radiation damage--and time
>>resolution?
>
> Actually, as calculated by Richard Henderson in 1995, there is non-negligible 
> radiation damage from neutrons due to infrequent but energetic nuclear 
> reactions. The reason that radiation damage by neutrons is not observed in 
> practice is that neutron sources are so weak.
>
> The potential and limitations of neutrons, electrons and X-rays for atomic 
> resolution microscopy of unstained biological molecules.
> Henderson R.
> Q Rev Biophys. 1995 May;28(2):171-93.
>
> best wishes
>
> James
>
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> David Phillips Research  Fellow
> Division of Molecular Biosciences
> Imperial College, LONDON
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> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Neutron data collection
>
> Wow, neutrons are pretty cool! No radiation damage--and time
> resolution? I guess this is since they have much higher energy, and
> are measurable individually? What are the numbers for fluxes
> (neutrons/sec)? Are the neutrons all at one energy, or is there a
> bandwidth?
>
> JPK
>
>> With X-rays, Laue diffraction leads to some systematic overlap as
>> reflections from different wavelengths fall on the same detector position,
>> and this cuts into completeness.
>>
>> With neutrons, it is possible to use a time-resolved detector such that all
>> events are time-stamped, and the reflections from lower energy neutrons do
>> not overlap with those of higher energy neutrons (neutrons having measurable
>> mass, and thus noticable velocity differences).  I know that this is
>> possible, I do not know whether it is commonplace.
>>
>> See, for example:
>> Protein crystallography with spallation neutrons: the user facility at Los
>> Alamos Neutron Science Center (2004) P. Langan, G. Greene & B.P. Schoenborn,
>> J. Appl. Cryst. 37(1) 24-31.
>>
>>
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