To all and Alex,

-The Kd is around 500nM from Biacore. 
-One of my protein tends to precipitate and is only stable below 3mg/m. If I 
concentrated it to higher concentration, it will precipitate a lot after 1hr. 
And it was previously crystallized at low concentration. But when I inject on 
gel filtration, I do try to load large amount both proteins. Then this leads to 
another question: How high should the concentration of complex be in 
co-crystallization or gel filtration? I set mine at 6mg/ml for the complex and 
I get some precipitate. What concentration of complex would people start with 
to co-crystallize?
-Yes, I use the same buffer system for both proteins and complex.

Thank you all for your suggestions.

Min

Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:13:46 +0200
From: alexander.paut...@boehringer-ingelheim.com
Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] crystallization of complex and ...
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK



Dear Min,regarding #1 some things come to my mind:- What is the Kd that you got 
from the Biacore? And did you make sure that the sample is concentrated enough 
(both on gel filtration and in crystallization) to have a “sufficient”  amount  
in the complex.- did you use the same buffer systems? Your Kd might be 
different in different buffers.BestAlex     Dr. Alexander Pautsch 
Boehringer Ingelheim Pharma GmbH & Co. KG
Dept. Lead Identific. and Optim. Sup. Ge
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Betreff: [ccp4bb] crystallization of complex and ... Dear all, I have two 
questions: First, I was trying to crystallize a complex of two proteins. Both 
proteins has been crystallized before. The two proteins bind to each other 
based on Biacore study, but they didn't form a single peak on gel filtration. 
When I mixed them at 1:1 ratio, the crystals I got contain only one of the two 
proteins. I was suggested to increase the ratio, for example 1.5:1, to increase 
the probability of co-crystallization which I will try. But I do want to hear 
if there are other possible ways to try. What would you try if you were in my 
situation?  Second is about reusing of Ni-NTA resin. According to Qiagen's 
instruction, after using fresh Ni-NTA resin, one only needs to wash the used Ni 
resin first with 0.5M NaOH, then with your own buffer. After that the resin is 
ready to be reused until it needs being recharged. But my question is: Once 
immidazole competes with His-tagged protein and binds to Ni-resin, how can 
immidazole be rinsed off with the same buffer(usually pH is above 7) one uses 
to purify the protein? Thank you for any suggestion or comment. Min             
                       

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