Okay then, Here's the plan for all the software developers out there:
1) backport cctbx to fortran (preferably F77) and include all subroutines inline to avoid the use of any external libraries whatsoever 2) ditch all gui support or, from scratch, develop a gui front-end that uses none of the following: Qt, Ruby, Perl, Python, TK/TCl, etc. This gui must compile and run on all mainstream hardware on all major operating systems. The custom gui might also need a custom driver for maximizing the capabilities of modern GPU's for 3D work, but shouldn't make use of any existing shading/tiling/rendering methods (like openGL). 3) scratch all binary formats (mtz,ccp4map,etc.) due to interoperability issues/dependencies. Everything in flat text (if you like, all variables can have four letters and can be followed by a flag/switch consisting of an integer or two, perhaps negative, to control software behavior). 4) abandon rapid software development afforded by modular, object oriented programming. Sounds good to me. Seriously however, I do like how well-coded monolithic executables simply work once compiled without fuss. I also like the speed and power afforded by using a well thought out toolkit of practical modules, a la PHENIX. I guess I can't have it all. Personally, if you really need windows, I second the idea of a VM running a linux environment. It's vastly simpler to install mature linux binaries within a VM then fight to get all of modern crystallographic software to run under windows. Even better, the other way around -- run linux native and windows in a VM. For the record: Shelx is awesome Fortran is a perfectly good programming language I keep a slide rule in my desk. --Paul Paul Smith, Ph.D. -- p...@smithops.net - Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center - New York Institute of Technology - www.paladinscientific.com --- On Mon, 8/29/11, George M. Sheldrick <gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> wrote: > From: George M. Sheldrick <gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 3:12 PM > It is simply a result of the 'zero > dependency' philosophy. In other words, the > exact opposite of current trends in crystallographic > computing (e.g. Phenix/CCTBX). > > George > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:39:16PM -0500, Jacob Keller > wrote: > > You know, why does your software always seem so clean? > Was it > > something about the punch cards? > > > > Jacob > > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM, George M. Sheldrick > > <gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> > wrote: > > > The current SHELX binaries (including the > beta-test multi-CPU SHELXD) all > > > appear to run fine under Windows 7. There is no > need to use a virtual box etc. > > > George > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:53:05PM -0700, Nat > Echols wrote: > > >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Jacob Keller > <j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> are there any additional problems or > known issues running ccp4 or > > >> other xtal software on windows 7 > (beyond those of Vista, etc.?) > > >> > > >> > > >> Phenix, ARP/wARP, and HKL2000 do not run on > Windows. I'm pretty sure none of > > >> Global Phasing's software does either (aside > from web interfaces). > > >> > > >> -Nat > > > > > > -- > > > Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS > > > Dept. Structural Chemistry, > > > University of Goettingen, > > > Tammannstr. 4, > > > D37077 Goettingen, Germany > > > Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 > > > Fax. +49-551-39-22582 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ******************************************* > > Jacob Pearson Keller > > Northwestern University > > Medical Scientist Training Program > > cel: 773.608.9185 > > email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu > > ******************************************* > > > > -- > Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS > Dept. Structural Chemistry, > University of Goettingen, > Tammannstr. 4, > D37077 Goettingen, Germany > Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 > Fax. +49-551-39-22582 >
