Thank you very much everyone for the replies.

Ok. Here are more details on the work:

1) Crystallization was done using counter diffusion method- in a capillary
(for both Space and Ground experiments)

2) Vapor diffusion method was done only for Ground experiments, and produced
both Shape 1 and Shape 2

3) The ground crystals usually grow in two forms- as nice single crystal
(Shape 1) and another one as needle-like long rods (Shape 2).

4) In space, only Shape 1 crystal was formed

5) Both Ground and Space experiments- temperature was fixed at 20 deg. Space
experiment- temperature was reported to us once a week.

6) Shape 2 crystals (the rods) diffracted much better, with much lower
mosaicity range, produced good data processing as compared to Shape 1 (Shape
1 Space crystal's mosaicity range= 0.5-0.96! )

7) Both Shape 1 and Shape 2 have different cell dimensions, with different
volumes (Shape 1= ~ 2X of Shape 2)

8)  Both structures from Shape 1 and Shape 2- solved by molecular
replacement methods- no major structural changes between them

Thank you.

Regards,

Fairolniza


 p/s: And thank you, Dr. Snell for the paper. I already have the paper and
it has been one of my favorite references :)




On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Artem Evdokimov <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> I would not rule out pure chance. Crystals of the same protein can and
> often do grow in two (or more!) different forms, from 'the same conditions'
> and often in the very same drop. In this case it's the same space group, but
> presumably different cell dimensions? Until a significant number of crystals
> from each condition (lab vs space) are analyzed, there's no reason not to
> believe that it was just luck :)
>
> Arten
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Jim Pflugrath 
> <jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>> OK, same space group, but you didn't indicate what the unit cells were.
>> They are different, right?
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of
>> *ferrol shariff
>>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:10 AM
>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Same protein, different molecule numbers per ASU
>>
>>  Hello and good day to everyone! :)
>>
>> I have some general questions on crystallography work. I hope you don't
>> mind giving me some ideas.
>>
>> I have solved my lipase protein both ground-grown crystals and space-grown
>> crystals with good resolutions (1.4A and 2.2A). They are the same protein
>> from the same source, same purification methods, and produced crystals from
>> the same crystallization conditions (except the gravity part).
>>
>> From the data, it shows that both of them belong to the same space group
>> P212121. But they have different number of molecule per asymmetric unit.
>> Ground crystal= 1 molecule/ASU, Space crystal= 2 molecules/ASU. At the
>> moment i have problem explaining this issue. Is it normal to have such
>> results? Same protein with different number of molecule/ASU?
>>
>> I've been trying to get some references on this matter but so far i don't
>> really get anything that can directly explain it. Furthermore, do i need to
>> relate this with the gravity effect?
>>
>> I hope you don't mind sharing some experiences on crystallography
>> especially regarding this matter.
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> --
>> FAIROLNIZA
>>
>> "The advantage of the emotions is that they lead us astray, and the
>> advantage of science is that it is not emotional"
>> -Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
>>
>
>


-- 
FAIROLNIZA

"The advantage of the emotions is that they lead us astray, and the
advantage of science is that it is not emotional"
-Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891

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