The other thing you can try to do is "the-cheap-men-silver-stain"

scan your gel and bump up the contrast, you'd be surprised what you can detect 
even from a regular stained gel.
Best results are if you make the gel first as a greyscale image.

Google for Neuhoff stain and bump up the phosphoric acid to 10%.

Jürgen

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Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
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On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Jim Pflugrath wrote:

> It reads like you need to run a lane or two with a positive control of some 
> kind.  Can you grow lysozyme, glucose isomerase, hemoglobin or other crystals 
> of a protein around the same expected molecular weight and try run on the gel 
> lanes with about the same amount of crystalline volume as your putative 
> protein crystals?
> 
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of 
> xaravich ivan
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:51 PM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystal gel band
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have grown some crystals after micro-seeding starting from thin-small 
> needles from needle-clusters. These crystals are larger in size than the 
> needles but are comparable to the shape and don't look like salt crystals. 
> But I cannot see the bands( its a complex) in the SDS-PAGE.I do not have a 
> home source,handy and would like to send these to the synchrotron.
> 
> Is it possible to NOT see a band of protein crystals in SDS-PAGE, if, say, 
> the amount of protein is < 1uG? 
> Has anyone experienced such a thing (no band in gel, but crystal diffracts)? 
> It would be nice if I get observations/suggestions.
> 
> ivan

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